Deep thought: Trinity-Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is One?

Judaism


A Look at the Trinity From a Messianic Jewish Perspective

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Jesus in Genesis: 1. The First Word of the Bible



I asked my dad once how do you convince a Jewish person that Jesus is the Messiah. He told me to show them Jesus in the Old Testament. My first thought was like everyone’s, the Old Testament (The Tanakh) is for the Jews and the New Testament (B’rit Chadashah) is for the Christians. My dad had it right. Jesus is on every page of the Old Testament; you just have to look. To prove my dad’s point, look where Jesus is hiding in plain sight in the very first word of the Bible. God bless you for watching.—John
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Islam

How can Jesus be God when the Hebrew Bible says God is not a man? Cf. Numbers 23:19; 1 Samuel 15:29; Hosea 11:9. answering-islam.org
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None of those biblical texts say God CANNOT be a man, but say that God IS not a man, a major difference:

“God IS not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?” Numbers 23:19

“And also the Glory of Israel will not lie or have regret, for he IS not a man, that he should have regret.” 1 Samuel 15:29

“I will not execute my burning anger; I will not again destroy Ephraim; for I am God and not a man, the Holy One in your midst, and I will not come in wrath.” Hosea 11:9

It is true that during the Old Testament period God hadn’t become a man, but this doesn’t deny that God could choose to later become a man, specifically in the Person of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Hebrew Bible itself supports the view that God can become a man, without ceasing to be God, since there are places where God appeared in human form:

“The LORD appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. Abraham looked up and saw THREE MEN standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground. He said, ‘If I have found favor in your eyes, my lord, do not pass your servant by. Let a little ..”

trinity explained by Ahmed Deedat

27 Is Jesus God? Deedat vs Anis Shorrosh

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Explaining Trinity to a Muslim – Dan Symonds – YouTube

Dan Symonds
Published on Dec 24, 2017
This teaching must not be taken to intellectually attack Muslims around you. We love our Muslim brothers and sisters and the purpose of this video is simply to gain clarity on their understanding of the Christian doctrine of Trinity and help communicate the same to them in love.

What Does the Bible Say About The Trinity? – OpenBible.info openbible.info

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Religion: What is Christianity?

Is it a religion?

Religion is a “man-made” institutions like school, government, etc.. Anything “made” by man is “not” perfect, which we will always find something “wrong” in it. Thus, there is corruption (e.g. violence, abuse, etc..) in schools, government, etc.. We then shouldn’t give our 100% trust and total dependence on any of these institutions. Who can we trust then?

Is it violent?

Religion has caused many wars. Jesus taught..

“””Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.”Matthew 26:52

Then why there are “so-called” (e.g. KKK-Protestant “racist” group, Catholic Crusaders, etc..) Christians go against Jesus’ teachings. Isn’t it hypocritical?
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Misconceptions

Triune God/Trinity

Theology Q&A – God
Dr. J. Rodman Williams 3. God – the Holy Trinity cbn.com
“..Let me give you two verses-and there are many others-that validate Christian belief in the Trinity. First, there are Jesus’ own words in Matthew 28:19: “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.” Second, there are Paul’s words in 2 Corinthians 13:14: “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.” Incidentally, the Catholic Church did not start the doctrine of the Trinity…”
There is Only One True God By: Dr. John Weldon jashow.org
‘…..The biblical doctrine of the Trinity is vital to understand because it concerns who God is, which is essential for having a proper realization of the nature of God as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. To understand the Trinity is to understand God as He has revealed Himself to be. To misunderstand the Trinity is to fail to understand who God is. ..”
Don Stewart :: What Are Some Common Misconceptions about the Trinity? blueletterbible.org
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Summary

There are a number of misconceptions that must be cleared up when considering the doctrine of the Trinity. The following points need to be made. The Trinity is not a pagan idea. It is based upon what the Bible has to say about the nature of God. There is no credible evidence that the Trinity was borrowed from any pagan belief. The Trinity doctrine is difficult for humans to comprehend but not impossible. The mystery of the Trinity means it is a truth that was formerly secret that God has now revealed to humanity. The Trinity doctrine is not contrary to reason. Reason, however, should not be the ultimate test as to what is true and what is false. The doctrine of the Trinity does not destroy the oneness of God. Much confusion surrounds the word person with reference to the Trinity. The three members of the Trinity are persons in the sense of distinct personalities not separate individuals. The Trinity is not formally or explicitly taught in Scripture. The church did not invent the doctrine of the Trinity. The church only recognized what the Bible taught on the subject. Although the term Trinity is not found in the Bible the Scripture teaches one God exists in three distinct persons. Finally we must note that criticisms of the Trinity are based mostly upon misconceptions of what the Bible has to say about the subject. ..”

What is the Trinity? – YouTube

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Trinity! An Explanation for Muslims arabicbible.com
CLARIFYING MISUNDERSTANDINGS
“….To say, as the minority cult of the Maryanyas did, that Mary was the mother of God through whom He produced a physical son, and both were to be taken as separate gods besides God, is absurd! This ludicrous and heathen concept of the Trinity is completely condemned by both Islam and Christianity! The Quran rejects it in clear terms in Surah 4, Al Nisa, verse 171. The Trinity has also been missuderstood to mean that God is three persons and only one person at the same time and in the same sense. Neither are there three substances in one substance. In opposite to this contradictions the Christians definition of the Trinity is expressed in the Athenasian Creed: “We worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons; nor dividing the Substance (Essence).” The word “person” is here used in the sense of “self with a particlular function” (The Illustrated Bible Dictionary” by F.F. Bruce, IVP Leicester, 1962, see “person”)…

BIBLICAL FACTS

“…There are a number of verses in the New Testament that call Jesus and the Holy Spirit God, besides God the Father. (John 8:58, compare with Exodus 3:14; Acts 5:3-4 etc.) In the light of this truth the following verses are understood to be speaking about the Trinity:

“Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name (singular!) of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19).

In Acts 2:38, 8:16, 19:4 People are baptised in the name of Jesus only. Since Jesus is now included in a way he was not in John’s baptism (19:4), the abbreviated form is used in the beginning to emphasize the distinctive quality of the new baptism.

“May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all” (2 Corinthians 13:14).

For more verses speaking about the Trinity when one considers the Biblical context see Ephesians 4:4-6, 5:18-20, 1 Cor 12:4-6, and Romans 8:9-11.

Even tough the word “Trinity” does not literally occur in these passages, the concept is quite clearly taught. In Islam too God is called “El Adl,” meaning “the Just,” “El Wajid,” meaning “The Inventor or Maker,” “Edh Dhur,” meaning “the harmful,” etc. in the list of the 99 names of God. However these words are nowhere found in the Quran but Muslims still accept these attributes as belonging to God. See The Muslim Doctrine of God by S.M. Zwemer, American tract Society, 1905, pages 39-45…”

Sam Shamoun – How to get Muslims to understand the Trinity

The Truth About Trinity

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Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus || Spoken Word

“Jesus is Lord”?

What does it mean when giving your “life to Christ”? It means giving Him control of “everything” in your life. To depend and trust in Him on all your “life challenges”.

I try to ask God to use me each day. The other day I was having trouble with my lawnmower. I was hoping to mow my lawn and then leave town for the cities for a 3-day weekend. I was disappointed that my lawnmower wouldn’t start yesterday. I then said, it it’s Your will Lord for me to stay here an extra day before going out of town…let it be done! Well, I finally got my lawnmower “fixed” (praise God for His wisdom and creative answer to fix it) today. I would realize the “reason” for it to be fix today throughout the rest of the day. Earlier this morning, I asked God this… “Lord, show me how I can be used by You today”?. Well, God answered it by having me help a “neighbor” wheel her “friend” up several steps on her wheel chair. Then I went to this annual “picnic”. I would sit at this table with a “family” I haven’t seen for awhile. We had a great fellowship time and “catching up” ! My lawnmower being fixed the day after was worth it. This is just “one” of many stories of what it means when you “ask Jesus the Lord of your life” (daily)!

It’s a lifestyle when one “tries” to follow Christ’s teachings through a “daily personal relationship” with Him!

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