Neutral Perspective: “Migrant & Immigrant Workers” take Jobs Nobody (Natives) Wants & Do Want?

DO WANT

How Unskilled Immigrants Hurt Our Economy
A handful of industries get low-cost labor, and the taxpayers foot the bill.

Steven Malanga
Summer 2006 The Social Order
California city-journal.org
“…Velasquez’s story illustrates some of the fault lines in the nation’s current, highly charged, debate on immigration. Since the mid-1960s, America has welcomed nearly 30 million legal immigrants and received perhaps another 15 million illegals, numbers unprecedented in our history. These immigrants have picked our fruit, cleaned our homes, cut our grass, worked in our factories, and washed our cars. But they have also crowded into our hospital emergency rooms, schools, and government-subsidized aid programs, sparking a fierce debate about their contributions to our society and the costs they impose on it…

Yet while these workers add little to our
economy, they come at great cost, because they are not economic abstractions but human beings, with their own culture and ideas—often at odds with our own. Increasing numbers of them arrive with little education and none of the skills necessary to succeed in a modern economy. Many may wind up stuck on our lowest economic rungs, where they will rely on something that immigrants of other generations didn’t have: a vast U.S. welfare and social-services apparatus that has enormously amplified the cost of immigration. Just as welfare reform and other policies are helping to shrink America’s underclass by weaning people off such social programs, we are importing a new, foreign-born underclass. As famed free-market economist Milton Friedman puts it: “It’s just obvious that you can’t have free immigration and a welfare state…..”

Immigration Is Hurting The U.S. Worker By Steven A. Camarota on April 1, 2007 cis.org
“..The United States needs fewer immigrants, not more. Lower levels of immigration, both legal and illegal make sense for my country because the growing number of undereducated people crossing our borders have hurt less educated native-born workers. The U.S. needs to focus on reducing overall immigration levels. This means a drop in the number of immigrants from Latin America, which accounts for half of the new arrivals, many of them at the lower end of the educational spectrum…”

Of Course Immigrants Take Jobs From People; But They Also Create Them For Others Tim Worstall , Contributor Apr 4, 2015 @ 09:07 AM 15,547 forbes.com
“..One of the standard arguments against immigration is that those immigrants then take a job or two that could have been done by some native born worker. This is, of course, entirely true: immigrants do indeed take jobs that could have been done by someone else, native born or not. However, that’s not the entire story. Immigrants also bring with them (whether they are documented or not) their own set of desires and needs. And fulfilling those desires and needs thus creates a job or two that other people can do: some of those will obviously go to the native born. So, yes, immigration does “steal jobs” but it also creates them. What we’d actually like to know then is what is the net effect: and the net effect is undoubtedly beneficial overall. Thus the reason that economists generally believe that immigration is a good thing..”

Migrant Workers Hurt by Slowdown

NEUTRAL

Yes, Immigration Hurts American Workers By GEORGE J. BORJAS September/October 2016 politico.com
The candidates tell drastically different stories about immigration. They’re both skipping half the truth.
“..Here’s the problem with the current immigration debate: Neither side is revealing the whole picture. Trump might cite my work, but he overlooks my findings that the influx of immigrants can potentially be a net good for the nation, increasing the total wealth of the population. Clinton ignores the hard truth that not everyone benefits when immigrants arrive. For many Americans, the influx of immigrants hurts their prospects significantly.

This second message might be hard for many Americans to process, but anyone who tells you that immigration doesn’t have any negative effects doesn’t understand how it really works. When the supply of workers goes up, the price that firms have to pay to hire workers goes down. Wage trends over the past half-century suggest that a 10 percent increase in the number of workers with a particular set of skills probably lowers the wage of that group by at least 3 percent. Even after the economy has fully adjusted, those skill groups that received the most immigrants will still offer lower pay relative to those that received fewer immigrants…

We don’t need to rely on complex statistical calculations to see the harm being done to some workers. Simply look at how employers have reacted. A decade ago, Crider Inc., a chicken processing plant in Georgia, was raided by immigration agents, and 75 percent of its workforce vanished over a single weekend. Shortly after, Crider placed an ad in the local newspaper announcing job openings at higher wages. Similarly, the flood of recent news reports on abuse of the H-1B visa program shows that firms will quickly dismiss their current tech workforce when they find cheaper immigrant workers…

When we look at the overall value of immigration, there’s one more complicating factor: Immigrants receive government assistance at higher rates than natives. The higher cost of all the services provided to immigrants and the lower taxes they pay (because they have lower earnings) inevitably implies that on a year-to-year basis immigration creates a fiscal hole of at least $50 billion—a burden that falls on the native population.”

Are immigrants taking U.S. jobs? debate.org

Does Illegal Immigration Disadvantage American Workers? immigration.procon.org

Does Immigration Cost Jobs? By Viveca Novak Posted on May 13, 2010 factcheck.org
Economists say immigration, legal or illegal, doesn’t hurt American workers.
‘..Miller makes it all sound so easy: Eight million illegal immigrants working in the U.S., 15 million unemployed American citizens and legal immigrants — we could cut the number of unemployed in half if we just booted out the illegal workers. “The numbers are simple,” he says.

The numbers certainly would be simple, if they worked that way. But they don’t…

Immigrant workers “create almost as many” jobs as they occupy, “and maybe more,” said Madeleine Sumption, policy analyst at the nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute, which is funded by a range of foundations, corporations and international organizations. “They often create the jobs they work in.” In addition, “they buy things, and they make the economy bigger,” she told us…”

Do Undocumented Immigrants Hurt The Economy? Not Exactly – Newsy
https://youtu.be/ZoWfjWSQ_yo
*they pay for social security, which “they” will unlikely see using in the future

Stats

The Effects of Immigration on the United States’ budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu
“…Despite these increases in labor supply, in many cases immigrants appear to complement American-born workers rather than replacing them. Because less-educated immigrants often lack the linguistic skills required for many jobs, they tend to take jobs in manual labor-intensive occupations such as agriculture and construction. Even for low-skilled native-born workers in these industries, the effects of increased competition from immigrants are ambiguous, as many take advantage of their superior communication abilities and shift into occupations where these skills are more valuable, such as personal services and sales.
Similarly, highly educated immigrants face a disadvantage in communication-intensive jobs, and therefore tend to work in scientific and technical occupations. Highly skilled natives in management, media, and other culture- and language-dependent jobs face little competition from high skilled immigrants. The inflow of foreign labor is, therefore, concentrated in a subset of occupations that tend to employ many immigrants already. Consequently, it is earlier immigrants who face the greatest increase in competitive pressure….

More often than not, immigrants are less educated and their incomes are lower at all ages than those of natives. As a result, immigrants pay less in federal, state, and local taxes and use federally-funded entitlement programs such as Medicaid, SNAP, and other benefits at higher rates than natives. But they are also less likely than comparably low income natives to receive public assistance. Moreover, when they do take public assistance, the average value of benefits received is below average, implying a smaller net cost to the federal government relative to a comparable low income native.

However, immigrants often impose a heavier tax burden on natives at the state and local level. Immigrants — particularly those with low levels of education and income — generally have larger families and more children using public K-12 education, the largest component of state and local budgets. Furthermore, if immigrants’ children are not already fluent English speakers, the per-student cost of education may be substantially higher than for native-born children.
These factors impose short-term costs on state budgets. Over the long term, however, the upward economic mobility and taxpaying lifetime of second generation immigrants more than offset the initial fiscal burden.

NOBODY WANT

Debunking the Myth of the Job-Stealing Immigrant On Money By ADAM DAVIDSON MARCH 24, 2015 nytimes.com

“..But immigrants aren’t oranges. It might seem intuitive that when there is an increase in the supply of workers, the ones who were here already will make less money or lose their jobs. Immigrants don’t just increase the supply of labor, though; they simultaneously increase demand for it, using the wages they earn to rent apartments, eat food, get haircuts, buy cellphones. That means there are more jobs building apartments, selling food, giving haircuts and dispatching the trucks that move those phones. Immigrants increase the size of the overall population, which means they increase the size of the economy. Logically, if immigrants were “stealing” jobs, so would every young person leaving school and entering the job market; countries should become poorer as they get larger. In reality, of course, the opposite happens.

Most anti-immigration arguments I hear are variations on the Lump of Labor Fallacy. That immigrant has a job. If he didn’t have that job, somebody else, somebody born here, would have it. This argument is wrong, or at least wildly oversimplified. But it feels so correct, so logical. And it’s not just people like my grandfather making that argument. Our government policy is rooted in it…”

Immigrants Aren’t Stealing American Jobs Tanvi Misra, CityLab Oct 21, 2015 theatlantic.com
More evidence surfaces that low-skilled native workers pursue different jobs than their immigrant counterparts.
“..Urban’s Maria E. Enchautegui studied a cohort of 16 million American workers without high school diplomas. She found that within this group, immigrants and native-born workers do very different jobs. In fact, she writes that native and immigrant workers at this level of education are much more dissimilar when it comes to their role in the job market than are workers at other levels of educational attainment. Here’s how she summarizes these results and their implication in a blog post:..”

Immigrants do jobs natives won’t do openborders.info
“..One of the arguments offered by supporters of expanded immigration, particularly in the context of low-skilled immigration to the United States, is that “immigrants do jobs that natives won’t do.” This argument, in the form stated, is incorrect, or at any rate, misleading. However, it does capture a conclusion many economists reach, which some have summarized as: “immigrants do jobs that wouldn’t exist if the immigrants weren’t there to do them.”

This position has been critiqued by many who are critical of immigration. For instance, in a syndicated column titled Immigration Taboos, Thomas Sowell writes:..

However, the actual economic argument is more subtle, and not so easy to ridicule. The key is to remember that prices not only affect the quantity of labor supply, but also the quantity of labor demand. If the supply curve shrinks inward because immigrants are not allowed in the labor market, then the price of labor increases, but the quantity supplied decreases, so overall, there are fewer jobs and less production…”

Foreign Workers Take Jobs Americans Don’t Want

Stats

Jobs Americans Won’t Do? numbersusa.org
“..According to the Pew Hispanic Center, there are approximately 8.3 million illegal workers in the United States. Only 4% of illegal workers work in agriculture (Pew Hispanic Trust, Tables 5 & 6), where most laborers are foreign-born and employers have a legal guestworker program (the H-2a visa) to supply all the seasonal labor they need. Nationally, 25% (of 1.4 million) crop laborers are U.S. citizens; 21% are legal immigrant workers (including H-2a workers); and 53% are illegal workers (National Agricultural Workers Survey). In the midwest, 48% are citizens, 23% are legal permanent residents, and 29% are illegal workers…’

5 Reasons Why Immigrants Do Not Take Natives’ Jobs By Prof. Amelie F. Constant, Ph.D. huffingtonpost.com
“..In my World of Labor article “Do migrants take the jobs of native workers?“ I lay down the pros and cons of the impact of migration on natives and show that ‘migrants rarely take native workers’ jobs, and indeed they tend to boost employment effects in the long term.’ The five reasons are: a) self-employed migrants directly create new jobs; b) migrant innovators indirectly create jobs; c) new migrants fill labor shortages and lubricate the labor markets; d) the high-skilled contribute to technological adaptation and the low-skilled to occupational mobility, specialization, and human capital creation thus creating new jobs; e) by raising demand, immigrants cause firms to expand and hire more workers.

Public opinion research carried out in the U.S., France, Germany and the UK after the 2008-2009 recession also supports that finding. Accordingly, most people believe that immigrants fill job vacancies and many believe that they create jobs, rather than taking jobs away from native workers (see Figure 1)…”

Jobs Americans Won’t Do? A Detailed Look at Immigrant Employment by Occupation By Steven A. Camarota and Karen Zeigler on August 17, 2009 cis.org
“…This analysis tests the often-made argument that immigrants only do jobs Americans don’t want. If the argument is correct, there should be occupations comprised entirely or almost entirely of immigrants. But Census Bureau data collected from 2005 to 2007, which allow for very detailed analysis, show that even before the recession there were only a tiny number of majority-immigrant occupations. (Click here to see detailed table.)

Among the findings:

Of the 465 civilian occupations, only four are majority immigrant. These four occupations account for less than 1 percent of the total U.S. workforce. Moreover, native-born Americans comprise 47 percent of workers in these occupations.
Many jobs often thought to be overwhelmingly immigrant are in fact majority native-born: ..”

Agriculture

‘They’re Scared’: Immigration Fears Exacerbate Migrant Farmworker Shortage 5:48 September 27, 20178:00 AM ET Melissa Block Marisa Penaloza – Square
“..As in the rest of the country, growers in heavily agricultural northern Michigan rely overwhelmingly on migrant laborers to work the fields and orchards. Most of the pickers are from Mexico. Growers say it’s just about impossible to find Americans to do this work. ..”

Wages rise on California farms. Americans still don’t want the job By Natalie Kitroeff and Geoffrey Mohan March 17, 2017 | reporting from Stockton, Calif. latimes.com
Trump’s immigration crackdown is supposed to help U.S. citizens. For California farmers, it’s worsening a desperate labor shortage.
‘..Solorio is one of a growing number of agricultural businessmen who say they face an urgent shortage of workers. The flow of labor began drying up when President Obama tightened the border. Now President Trump is promising to deport more people, raid more companies and build a wall on the southern border…”

That has made California farms a proving ground for the Trump team’s theory that by cutting off the flow of immigrants they will free up more jobs for American-born workers and push up their wages.

So far, the results aren’t encouraging for farmers or domestic workers.

Farmers are being forced to make difficult choices about whether to abandon some of the state’s hallmark fruits and vegetables, move operations abroad, import workers under a special visa or replace them altogether with machines.

Growers who can afford it have already begun raising worker pay well beyond minimum wage. Wages for crop production in California increased by 13% from 2010 to 2015, twice as fast as average pay in the state, according to a Los Angeles Times analysis of data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics…”

-Dairy Farms

The Worst Job In New York: Immigrant America
https://youtu.be/QXUdozfL7iM
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Milking cows is a dirty, monotonous job, and as we found out in our latest episode of Immigrant America, it’s not a job many unemployed Americans are willing to do. But for some reason the government doesn’t give dairy farms a way to recruit foreign workers legally, so most feel forced to hire illegal immigrants. This makes the farms and their workers easy targets for immigration authorities looking to fill deportation quotas. We went to upstate New York to try to understand the cat and mouse game going on between dairy farms and immigration authorities. We found a lot of wasted taxpayer money, racial profiling, and a broken system that unnecessarily treats family farmers and hardworking immigrants like criminals.

Read more: Unauthorized Immigrants Paid $100 Billion Into Social Security Over Last Decade: http://bit.ly/1o7iyfZ”

Food Prices Will Go Up

What Would America’s Food Supply Look Like Without Immigrant Labor? Wyatt Marshall Jan 31 2017, 2:00pm munchies.vice.com
If Trump follows through with plans to restrict immigration and deport undocumented immigrants, some industry experts say that farms and factories could be left scrambling, and the price tag for food could inflate dramatically.

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Neutral Perspective: Paid Protesters, really?!

With the recent incident in Charlotsville, I decided to research more on this “growing” topic in social media..

“Crowds on Demand” Posts Charlotte Craigslist Ad Offering $25/Hr For Paid Protesters By Scott Jensen – August 16, 2017 charlottestories.com
“…Crowds on Demand” claims to be “Your home for protests, rallies, audiences, PR stunts, and celebrity events” according to their website.

10 Days ago they posted an ad in the tv/film/video/radio job section of Charlotte’s Craigslist asking for, “enthusiastic actors and photographers in the Charlotte, NC area to participate in…everything from rallies to protests to corporate PR stunts to celebrity scenes.”..”

Why Was This ‘Crowd Hire’ Company Recruiting $25 An Hour ‘Political Activists’ In Charlotte Last Week?
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by Tyler Durden
Aug 17, 2017 3:45 AM .zerohedge.com
“…Now, the discovery of a craigslist ad posted last Monday, almost a full week before the Charlottesville protests, is raising new questions over whether paid protesters were sourced by a Los Angeles based “public relations firm specializing in innovative events” to serve as agitators in counterprotests.

The ad was posted by a company called “Crowds on Demand” and offered $25 per hour to “actors and photographers” to participate in events in the “Charlotte, NC area.” While the ad didn’t explicitly define a role to be filled by its crowd of “actors and photographers” it did ask applicants to comment on whether they were “ok with participating in peaceful protests.” Here is the text from the ad:..”

Law Enforcement Protest

-Ferguson Missouri

Hired Black Lives Matter protesters start #CutTheCheck after being stiffed by ACORN successor group By Jessica Chasmar – The Washington Times – Tuesday, May 19, 2015 washingtontimes.com
“…Hired protesters with the Black Lives Matter movement have started a #CutTheCheck hashtag and held a sit-in at the offices for the successor group to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) in Missouri after the group allegedly stopped paying them.

FrontPage Magazine reports that Missourians Organizing for Reform and Empowerment (MORE) has been paying protesters $5,000 a month to demonstrate in Ferguson. Last week, hired protesters who haven’t been paid held a sit-in at MORE’s offices and posted a demand letter online…”

Political Protest

Anti-Trump

-Hoax

Hoax ads in two dozen cities offered protesters up to $2,500 to agitate at Trump inaugural By Valerie Richardson – The Washington Times – Tuesday, January 17, 2017 washingtontimes.com

‘Dominic Tullipso’ prompts Fox host to laugh, say ‘this is performance art’
“..The polished Demand Protest website, the Backpage.com ads recruiting paid protesters for the Trump inauguration: Apparently it was all a hoax.

A man using the alias “Dominic Tullipso” said Tuesday on Fox News Channel — well, it was hard to figure out what he was trying to say, but it was also clear that he wasn’t running a business that involved spending thousands on hiring activists.

“It’s pretty darn easy these days to just say whatever the heck you want on national TV and have it pass off as truth,” he told host Tucker Carlson. “I don’t know, it’s pretty incredible to me how easy it was to get the coverage we got.”

The unidentified prankster then added, “By the way, I’m not saying that anything of this a hoax and any of this isn’t true.”

Mr. Carlson informed him that, “Well, I’m vetting you right now, and I’m saying you are not legitimate, you are lying. You have fooled other news organizations, you have not fooled us.”..

For Trump

Both Sides

-Hoax

Left, Right Both Hyping Dubious Craigslist Ads Purporting to Prove Other Side Is Recruiting Actors for Trump Rally By Ben Mathis-Lilley The Slatest
Your News Companion
Aug. 22 2017 2:04 PM slate.com
“The idea that shadowy figures such as George Soros are paying protesters to show up at anti-Trump rallies—as if it’s difficult to find people to protest an extremely unpopular president who is especially unpopular in the high-density urban areas where protests are usually held—is a commonly circulated one on the right. The expectation that a significant crowd of protesters will gather outside Tuesday night’s Donald Trump speech in Phoenix has triggered the usual paranoia:..”

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Neutral Perspective: “Racism” or “Not”?

Immigration

California teacher held at border checkpoint: “It made me feel sick to get asked” Last Updated Jul 26, 2017 3:13 PM EDT cbsnews.com
“.. A California teacher posted a video of border patrol agents detaining her after she refused to say if she was a U.S. citizen at a checkpoint in New Mexico, about 35 miles from the border.

The video has many wondering if she was within her rights or had an obligation to comply.

When San Diego resident Shane Parmely was stopped at a New Mexico border patrol station she refused to answer the agent’s questions. She was heading home from vacation with her three children and asked one of them to start recording the exchange.

The videos have generated thousands of views on Facebook and sparked a heated debate on immigration rights.

The middle school teacher says she did it after hearing her Latino friends talk about their experiences at checkpoints.

“It made me feel sick to get asked, knowing what my friends have been through. It just made me feel physically ill,” Parmely said. ..”

Law Enforcement

When a police shooting victim is a white woman-
The sympathetic reaction to Justine Damond’s death shows the relentless power of race in America.

Updated by German Lopez@germanrlopezgerman.lopez@vox.com Jul 24, 2017, 1:10pm EDT vox.com
“…It’s not just Breitbart. Conservative media, based on some sleuthing on Google, has been generally quiet about Damond’s death — which is notable on its own, given that these outlets often counter what they see as liberal news narratives with their own narratives, particularly when it comes to police shootings. As one example, a Google search turns up four stories on the Blaze, the network founded by conservative pundit Glenn Beck, about Damond, but there are pages and pages of results from the Blaze for each of the killings of black men like Michael Brown, Freddie Gray, and Philando Castile.

When conservative outlets have written about Damond’s death, they by and large have framed her as a victim. Here is, for example, Fox News: “Australian woman shot dead by Minneapolis police after calling to report possible crime.” And here is the Blaze: “Questions swirl after Australian woman is fatally shot by Minneapolis police; bodycams were off.”

Damond’s lawyer played into this as well, calling Damond “the most innocent victim” of a police shooting that he has ever seen. He quickly added, “I’m not saying Philando wasn’t innocent, too, or that Frank Baker wasn’t innocent. But here is someone who called the police and was trying to stop someone from being hurt … and ends up being shot in her pajamas.”

Ranking victims of police shootings is odd enough, but there are plenty of totally innocent victims of police killings besides Damond. Consider that, in Detroit, police in 2010 killed a sleeping 7-year-old when they stormed her home while looking for her uncle — though this girl, unlike Damond, was poor and black…”

Justine Damond Case Sparks Debate Over #BLM’s Support of an Unarmed White Woman While Blue Lives Matter Abandon a Black Cop-
Some have called for the execution and deportation of the Somali-American officer.
bet.com
“..Tom Plunkett, Noor’s attorney, said the officer feels very bad for the family of Justine Damond. Plunkett also elaborated that Noor felt that being a police officer was a calling since he came to America.

“He joined the police force to serve the community and to protect the people he serves,” the statement read.

Noor joined the Minneapolis Police Department in March of 2015 and was later celebrated as the first Somali officer for the 5th Precinct.

After the officer was identified, people on social media noticed the difference in reaction to the case. ..”

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Neutral Perspective: Interracial marriage is wrong or right?

WRONG

-African Perspective

The Bible Says Interracial Marriage Is a Sin!


“Published on Jun 17, 2014

Marrying outside of your race is wickedness according to the bible. For more information, please visit http://fwisrael.org/”

WHAT the BIBLE Say about Interracial Marriage? It is a SIN: GOD Forbids


“Published on Mar 5, 2016

Isaiah 13:14-16 (KJV)
14 And it(Whiteman) shall be as the chased roe, and as a sheep that no man taketh up: they shall every man turn to his own people, and flee every one into his own land.
15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined(Married) unto them shall fall by the sword.
16 Their children(Whiteman) also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.”

RIGHT

-Biblical

What does the Bible Say About Interracial Marriages bibleinfo.com

What Does the Bible Say About Interracial Marriage?


“Published on Dec 30, 2013

A biblical perspective about Interracial couples and Interracial dating.”

“Interracial Marriage” Baptist Preaching (independent, fundamental, KJV sermon)


“Published on Sep 22, 2014

http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/pa… Here is the link to make an online donation to Faithful Word Baptist Church: http://www.truebornsons.com/donate-to…”

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Neutral Perspective: Dinosaurs Lived “Many” or “NOT that many” years ago?

“MANY”

(millions, billions, or trillions)

AMERICAS

-NORTH

->Canada

Researchers found a dinosaur that still has its skin and guts
Mike Wehner,BGR News Mon, May 15 6:01 PM PDT yahoo.com
“…The fossil is that of a nodosaur, a type of herbivorous dinosaur that lived between 110 million and 112 million years ago. Despite being a plant eater, it was an absolutely monstrous beast, measuring 18 feet long, with heavy armor plating and spiked scales stretching from head to toe…”

NOT that Many

(recently compared to the one above)

http://www.answersingenesis.org/store/product/great-dinosaur-mystery-solved/?sku=10-2-092

Ken Ham explains how to understand earth’s history … from a biblical perspective. He then applies this biblical foundation to the intriguing topic of dinosaurs!

more..
http://bible.goodnewseverybody.com/

The Dinosaur Mystery Solved-John Morris part 1

Forget Extinct: The Brontosaurus Never Even Existed
by NPR Staff
December 09, 2012 4:26 PM
http://www.npr.org/2012/12/09/166665795/forget-extinct-the-brontosaurus-never-even-existed

“…It was in the heat of this competition, in 1877, that Marsh discovered the partial skeleton of a long-necked, long-tailed, leaf-eating dinosaur he dubbed Apatosaurus. It was missing a skull, so in 1883 when Marsh published a reconstruction of his Apatosaurus, Lamanna says he used the head of another dinosaur — thought to be a Camarasaurus — to complete the skeleton…”

The Dinosaur Mystery Solved-John Morris part 2

http://www.truthinscience.org.uk/tis2/index.php/component/content/article/48.html

“…The fossil record is the cause of ongoing debate between evolutionists. On one side geneticists and theoreticians stand for Darwinian “gradualism.” They continue to claim that the lack of intermediate forms is due to the rarity of fossilisation and the imperfection of the fossil record. Thus, the fossil record is something which needs to be explained away – it is not good evidence for Darwinian evolution…”

The Dinosaur Mystery Solved-John Morris part 4

You Don’t “Fit” Dinosaurs with the Bible!
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2000/04/14/dont-fit-dinosaurs

“…Also, there is a lot of evidence (such as carvings and paintings of dinosaur-like creatures)—and (unfossilized) dinosaur bone with red blood cells—that makes sense in the light of the biblical account of history. Did you know that a dinosaur may be described in detail in the Bible? Check out Job 40:15–19. And if the notes in your Bible state that this animal was an elephant or hippo, read the passage again to see that this can’t be so.

Did you know the word “dinosaur” was first invented in 1841? Dinosaurs were probably called “dragons” before that time. And the Hebrew word for “dragon” is used a number of times in the Old Testament. There are also dragon legends prevalent in cultures around the world. It’s possible these are accounts of encounters with beasts we today call dinosaurs.
..”

more..http://carm.org/did-men-and-dinosaurs-live-together

Were dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark?
http://creation.com/were-dinosaurs-on-noahs-ark

The Dinosaur Mystery Solved-John Morris part 5

http://www.genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/scriptural/

The Dinosaur Mystery Solved-John Morris part 5
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1907779/

more…

What really happened to the Dinosaurs-Ken Ham part 1 of 6

Is the Loch Ness monster real? Can dinosaurs live today? — Libby Grubby, age 8, Greenwood, IN
http://www.discoverymagazine.com/digger/d98dd/d9808dd.html

http://www.bible.ca/tracks/taylor-trail.htm

http://www.creationtoday.org/is-there-evidence-of-dinosaurs-and-man-living-at-the-same-time/?doing_wp_cron=1375676415.9161889553070068359375

Have blood cells ever been found in dinosaur fossils?
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c026.html

“…. The Montana team did find, along with DNA from fungi, insects and bacteria, unidentifiable DNA sequences, but could not say that these could not have been jumbled sequences from present-day organisms. However, the same problem would not be there for hemoglobin, the protein which makes blood red and carries oxygen, so they looked for this substance in the fossil bone. …”

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Diver’s sea creature find is ‘discovery of a lifetime’
Jasmine Santana finds 18-foot oarfish carcass at Catalina Island; bizarre-looking denizens are rarely seen and once spawned tales of sea serpents

October 15, 2013 by Pete Thomas

http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/nature/post/divers-sea-creature-find-is-discovery-of-a-lifetime/

“…They’re believed responsible, in the times of ancient mariners, for spawning tales of sea serpents and dragons that would rise like demons to steal crewmen and sink tall ships.

They’re rarely encountered but sometimes when they die or are near-death, they surface and wash ashore.

Only a handful of live specimens have been found. Interestingly, Catalina was the site of at least one such discovery.

In 2006, a 15-foot oarfish was spotted in the island’s Big Fisherman’s Cove. Harbormaster Doug Oudin snorkeled alongside the docile creature before it eventually perished. It was collected for study.

Last year at the Baja California resort city of Cabo San Lucas, a 15-foot barely-live oarfish washed ashore on a popular beach. It also died soon after its discovery.

The modern discovery of oarfish may date to 1808, when a 56-foot serpent-like creature washed ashore in Scotland.

In 1901, a 22-foot oarfish drifted onto the sand in Newport Beach, California, becoming, according to one reference book, “the basis for many sea-serpent stories told by local bar patrons for more than a decade after its discovery.”..”

Dragon found in Spain 08/22/2013

Rare Dragon/Shark Found In Japan

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Japan Earthquake : Unknown Creature Caught On Aerial Footage !

AFRICA

-Congo

The Last Dinosaur of the Congo

“…Sources as reputable as Scientific American and the BBC believe that there may still be dinosaurs in the most remote jungles of the Congo. We sent some amateur cryptozoologists out there to look for the creature the local pygmies call Mokele-mbembe, or “he who stops the flow of rivers.” What they ended up experiencing in the Heart of Darkness has to be seen to be believed. …”

Dinosaur of the Congo

“…This is my long overdue video of the the Mokele-Mbembe! Soon, I will begin working on a huge project that will include ancient and modern day dragons.
…”

-Movies
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The Dinosaur Project Trailer

AMERICAS

-Canada

Hadrosaur skin found by David Catchpoole
Published: 23 July 2013 (GMT+10) creation.com
“..The discovery of hadrosaur (duck-billed dinosaur) skin near Grande Prairie, Alberta, Canada, is a classic example. University of Regina researcher Mauricio Barbi recounts: “As we excavated the fossil, I thought we were looking at a skin impression. Then I noticed a piece came off and I realized this is not ordinary—this is real skin. Everyone involved with the excavation was incredibly excited ….”2

Their excitement is understandable. Everybody is taught that dinosaurs became extinct millions of years ago yet here is a piece of real skin. No wonder they didn’t expect to find it, and initially thought it must have been only a skin impression. The basic question arising from the discovery ought now to have been, “Why is it that we’ve been taught these fossils are millions of years old, when here quite plainly is evidence to the contrary?”

Instead, Mauricio Barbi and colleagues are trying to answer their question: “how the fossil remained intact for around 70 million years.” ..”

-Mexico

“Dinosaur Figurines Found in Mexico, Page 1”
http://discoverynews.us/DISCOVERY%20MUSEUM/DinosaurWorld/DinoFigurines/Dinosaur_Figurines_of_Mexico.html

Feel free to share any other sources to support any of the two arguments above..

Good News Archaeology
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Neutral Perspective: There was “evidence” and “no-evidence” of chemical attack in Syria by Assad?

EVIDENCE

Conspiracy claims that Syrian gas attack was ‘false flag’ are unproven By Joshua Gillin on Friday, April 7th, 2017 at 3:31 p.m. politifact.com
“…So, was the chemical attack a hoax orchestrated to draw the United States into Syria’s civil war?

We found no credible evidence of it. While doubters have raised eyebrows, asked questions and offered theories, there’s little in the way of proof that their claims are anything more than speculation.

Here are the charges some are alleging…”

France says it has proof Assad carried out chemical attack that killed 86 independent.co.uk Bethan McKernan Beirut @mck_beth an hour ago (Wednesday, April 19th 2017)
Syrian president has said that allegations from the international community his forces deliberately poisoned civilians are ‘100 per cent fabrication
“..”There is an investigation underway… it’s a question of days and we will provide proof that the regime carried out these strikes,” Jean-Marc Ayrault told LCP television on Wednesday.

..”

Related

Syria conflict: New evidence of chemical attacks – BBC News


“Published on Sep 11, 2015
There is new evidence of chemical attacks being carried out in Syria. Government forces are thought to be behind many of them, but forces from the group calling itself Islamic State are also said to have used the weapons. The BBC has seen evidence of the use of both mustard gas and chlorine, despite a commitment by President Bashar al-Assad in 2013 to dismantle Syria’s chemical weapons stockpile.

NO EVIDENCE

100% PROOF HOAX Syria Gas Attack 2017 is FALSE FLAG


“Published on Apr 4, 2017
TRUTH About the Syria Gas Attack & Emails Leaked:100% PROOF SYRIAN REVOLUTION FAKE & 2017 SARIN GAS ATTACK. This video is in the public interest and newsworthy. Vandyke is trying to take it down for privacy. http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/12…
http://www.infowars.com/natos-war-on-…

This video Read all the leaks here: http://leaks.sea.sy/vandyke-leaks/”
Ron Paul: “Zero Chance” Assad Behind Chemical Weapons Attack In Syria; Likely A False Flag by Tyler Durden
Apr 6, 2017 7:30 PM
“…“It doesn’t make any sense for Assad under these conditions to all of a sudden use poison gases – I think there’s zero chance he would have done this deliberately,” said Paul.
…”

The Truth About The Syrian Chemical Attack – A Timeline Of False Flags & Lies


“Published on Apr 7, 2017
Josh Sigurdson breaks down a 4 year timeline of false flags and destruction following the false flag chemical attack in Syria.
Back in 2013 we saw the same story playing out with the same old lies. We at WAM did everything we could to warn people about the false flag that has been shoved in our face through the mainstream media. The propaganda that was all too familiar from Libya, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan and going back to Iranian missile coup.
We warned people that it was just another false flag in order to go to war. That arming the rebels in Syria would lead to a new you-know-who. (For the sake of algorithm we will for now leave their name out of the description.)
Sure enough, the US armed and funded the rebel group and we know how that turned out.
Later on, it was found that there was no evidence that Assad gassed his own people and showed that Hillary Clinton approved delivering Libya’s sarin gas to Syrian rebels, a decision in 2012 between the Obama administration, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the CIA and MI6 as exposed by Seymour Hersh.
Soon after, footage came out showing rebels testing the chemical agents on rabbits.
Trump at the time echoed the words of none other than Thomas Massie that war with Syria would be horrendous.
In 2014, John Kerry declared all chemical weapons were removed from Syria. This statement has followed him ever since.
During the 2015-2016 US election, Hillary Clinton pushed the notion of shooting down Russian planes in Syria following Russia’s alignment with Syria. According to top generals, this would lead to World War 3 with Russia.
Trump ran on a non-interventionist platform regarding Syria and said he would not be involved in bombing the country. How things have changed…
In December 2016, Israel and Syria signed a ceasefire that was to put an end to Israel’s bombing of government targets. Israel immediately disobeyed, bombing Syrian airports and government targets while claiming they were targeting terrorists.
In March 2017, after Israel bombed several government targets in Syria, Damascus fired back at Israel. No one was killed, and Israel intercepted the blow-back, but it was considered the most significant escalation of aggression between Israel and Syria to date.
While tensions with Russia appeared to be calming, lowering the chances of a world war, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and UN ambassador Nikki Haley claimed that Assad was no longer their target in Syria and that the Syrian people should decide their own political fate. The next day, John McCain spoke out furiously about the development saying he was “deeply disturbed by the statements.”
Within 3 days, the media wants us to believe that Assad, despite being safe, with no motive whatsoever, decided to gas his own people.
Trump and Tillerson both followed this story by saying their views on Syria have changed. Trump saying we’re now talking about “a whole different level” in Syria.
Trump is now aligning with John McCain and Lindsey Graham on the issue. There is now a threat of world war 3 with Russia once again.
Russia is adamantly saying that Assad is not responsible.
In fact, on April 4th, 2017, the Syrian government bombed a rebel held warehouse where chemical weapons are produced. Rebels used these same chemical munitions in 2016 in Aleppo.
Rex Tillerson is saying that Russia needs to change their tune regarding Syria immediately.
This was followed on April 6th, 2017 by a night ambush. 59 tomahawk missiles hit a Syrian base. explosions went off in Homs. Putin threatened possible negative consequences. This is now the world we live in.
Can’t people see the fashion of the week? That anyone who disagrees with the establishment must work for Russia? That the script seemed to be thrown to the wind and the establishment is desperate to make the script play out all the same?
Think about it, the Trump administration after all these years claims they are not interested in overthrowing Assad, so Assad for absolutely no reason decides to gas his own people?
It makes absolutely no sense!
This is insanity. This is so incredibly irresponsible!
Ron Paul agrees that this is a false flag much like what we saw in 2013. If Assad was involved in doing this terrible crime, he’d be committing suicide.
Trump is drinking the koolaid of his intel advisers entrenched in the CFR, CIA deep state and it puts us all in danger.

Stay tuned for updates!

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Major Evidence That Assad Did Not Conduct Chemical Attacks


“Published on Apr 9, 2017
The current march to war in Syria is being justified by claiming that Bashar al Assad used chemical weapons on his people. This video demonstrates evidence that Assad did not have chemical weapons because they were all destroyed in 2014.
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Assad claims Syria chemical attack was ‘fabrication’, in face of evidence By Laura Smith-Spark, CNN
Updated 11:09 PM ET, Thu April 13, 2017 cnn.com
“..In an interview with the AFP news agency, conducted under restrictions imposed by the Syrian government at the presidential palace in Damascus, Assad claimed the reported details of what happened were not credible because their source was al-Qaeda’s former affiliate in Syria, Nusra Front.
He suggested that photographs showing children who had died in the attack on a rebel-held town in Idlib province, which provoked revulsion around the world, were staged. The entire incident was “fabricated” and “unconvincing,” Assad claimed…”

Russia Says Evidence Growing Syria Chemical Attack Was Stagedm by Stepan Kravchenko and Ilya Arkhipov
April 14, 2017, 6:51 AM CDT bloomberg.com
“…“There’s growing evidence that this was staged,” Lavrov said at a Moscow news conference with his Iranian and Syrian counterparts on Friday. Publications including in the U.S. and the U.K. have highlighted “many inconsistencies” in the version of events in Syria’s Idlib province that was used to justify the American airstrikes, he said.

Russia, Iran and Syria want an independent investigation and those opposed to the call “don’t have a clear conscience,” Lavrov said. Russia vetoed a United Nations Security Council resolution on Wednesday that demanded the Syrian government cooperate with an inquiry into the suspected sarin-gas attack that killed dozens of people.

..”
MIT expert claims latest chemical weapons attack in Syria was staged Tareq Haddad,International Business Times (Monday, April 17th 2017) yahoo.com
“A leading weapons academic has claimed that the Khan Sheikhoun nerve agent attack in Syria was staged, raising questions about who was responsible.

Theodore Postol, a professor emeritus at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), issued a series of three reports in response to the White House’s finding that Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad perpetrated the attack on 4 April.

He concluded that the US government’s report does not provide any “concrete” evidence that Assad was responsible, adding it was more likely that the attack was perpetrated by players on the ground.

Postol said: “I have reviewed the [White House’s] document carefully, and I believe it can be shown, without doubt, that the document does not provide any evidence whatsoever that the US government has concrete knowledge that the government of Syria was the source of the chemical attack in Khan Sheikhoun, Syria at roughly 6am to 7am on 4 April, 2017….

The image Postol refers to is that of a crater containing a shell inside, which is said to have contained the sarin gas.

His analysis of the shell suggests that it could not have been dropped from an airplane as the damage of the casing is inconsistent from an aerial explosion. Instead, Postol said it was more likely that an explosive charge was laid upon the shell containing sarin, before being detonated…”

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Syrian Dictator Urges UN to Act Against U.S. and Others It Accuses of Supporting Terrorists
By Patrick Goodenough | April 17, 2017 | 4:34 AM EDT cnsnews.com
“..The Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) said the letter ended with a call on the U.N. “to condemn this criminal attack, punish their perpetrators and bring the governments that support terrorist organizations, on top of them, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, France, the U.S. and Britain, to justice, and force them carry out U.N. relevant resolutions …”..

NGOs: Grassroots Empowerment or Tool of Information Warfare?
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