Deep Thought: How much to “give”?

February 16, 2017 at 3:41 am | Posted in Deep, give, How, much, Thought, to, Uncategorized | Leave a comment
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Sal: I didn’t start “tithing” or giving an offering to my local church until my college days (it wasn’t 10%, but whenever I swore-that’s another blog..lol!) when I became a “Christian”. I really never was taught on this topic from a Biblical perspective. It took me awhile to start giving 10% and knowing it’s the Lord’s as He owns everything anyways. It’s like giving it “back” to Him showing Him our gratitude of His blessings…

Bible

What does the Bible say about Christian tithing? Should a Christian tithe? .gotquestions.org
“…Tithing is an Old Testament concept. The tithe was a requirement of the Law in which the Israelites were to give 10 percent of the crops they grew and the livestock they raised to the tabernacle/temple (Leviticus 27:30; Numbers 18:26; Deuteronomy 14:24; 2 Chronicles 31:5). In fact, the Old Testament Law required multiple tithes—one for the Levites, one for the use of the temple and the feasts, and one for the poor of the land—which would have pushed the total to around 23.3 percent. Some understand the Old Testament tithe as a method of taxation to provide for the needs of the priests and Levites in the sacrificial system.

After the death of Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law, the New Testament nowhere commands, or even recommends, that Christians submit to a legalistic tithe system. The New Testament nowhere designates a percentage of income a person should set aside, but only says gifts should be “in keeping with income” (1 Corinthians 16:2). Some in the Christian church have taken the 10 percent figure from the Old Testament tithe and applied it as a “recommended minimum” for Christians in their giving. ..”
What Does the Bible Say About Giving 10 Percent? – OpenBible.info openbible.info
What Does the Bible Say About Tithes And Offering? – OpenBible.info openbible.info
What does the Bible say about Christian tithing?

“Published on Jun 25, 2013

The New Testament nowhere designates a percentage of income a person should set aside, but only says it is to be “in keeping with income” (1 Corinthians 16:2). Some in the Christian church have taken the 10 percent figure from the Old Testament tithe and applied it as a “recommended minimum” for Christians in their giving. The New Testament talks about the importance and benefits of giving. We are to give as we are able. Sometimes that means giving more than 10 percent; sometimes that may mean giving less. It all depends on the ability of the Christian and the needs of the church. Every Christian should diligently pray and seek God’s wisdom in the matter of participating in tithing and/or how much to give (James 1:5). Above all, all tithes and offerings should be given with pure motives and an attitude of worship to God and service to the body of Christ. “Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver” (2 Corinthians 9:7).

Tithing is an Old Testament concept. The tithe was a requirement of the law in which all Israelites were to give 10 percent of everything they earned and grew to the Tabernacle/Temple (Leviticus 27:30; Numbers 18:26; Deuteronomy 14:24; 2 Chronicles 31:5). In fact, the Old Testament Law required multiple tithes which would have pushed the total to around 23.3 percent, not the 10 percent which is generally considered the tithe amount today. Some understand the Old Testament tithe as a method of taxation to provide for the needs of the priests and Levites in the sacrificial system. The New Testament nowhere commands, or even recommends, that Christians submit to a legalistic tithe system. Paul states that believers should set aside a portion of their income in order to support the church (1 Corinthians 16:1-2).”

-Finances

Dave’s Advice on Tithing and Giving, from daveramsey.com
“…So why does He ask us to give 10% to Him? Tithing was created for our benefit. It is to teach us how to keep God first in our lives and how to be unselfish people. Unselfish people make better husbands, wives, friends, relatives, employees and employers. God is trying to teach us how to prosper over time.

Many people have observed that after they stopped tithing, their finances seemed to get worse. In the Book of Malachi, God promises that if you do not rob Him of your tithing, He will rebuke your devourers and protect you.

If you cannot live off 90% of your income, then you cannot live off 100%. It does not require a miracle for you to get through the month. I think that if you sit down and look at your budget, you will see that you can make it while giving at least 10%. Read the Bible and take from it what you will, and if you tithe, do it out of love for God, not guilt…”
Wife And I Disagree On Tithing

-Teachings

Todd White – Financial Blessing & Living a Holy lifestyle

-Testimonies

Financial Blessing Testimonies: Man Proves God’s Promises True By Remaining Faithful in Giving Despite Money Problems By John Leuven Lasan on December 13 2016 09:32 PM citizenoracle.com

One of the most common things that we hear people say is that God moves in “mysterious ways.” And this proves true in every aspect of people’s lives, which can only make sense because once we understand that His ways are higher than ours, we will be able to appreciate how God surprises His people with the way He works, be it with a financial blessing or any other aspect of our lives. For example, let us take the testimony of Richard and Lynn and see how being true to God has given them so much more than what they expected.”
When You Bless Others It does Come back: My Testimony How God blessed me. , from youtube.com
“Published on Apr 22, 2013

The Bible still is true, when you do something for someone else God truly does give back in a double portion. I just wanted to share my testimony of what happened to me. When I needed God’s Help he was there right on time. Angels truly do encamp around us. God is So good. He gave through for me.”
Imagine Living Life Debt-Free!
With a garden and an orchard in their back yard, Frank and Gail Smith are experts at growing a variety of fruits and vegetables.
“With a garden and an orchard in their back yard, Frank and Gail Smith are experts at growing a variety of fruits and vegetables.“We have peaches and cherries and apricots and plums,” says Frank. “The mandarins and the pomelos, which come off in December, are just – they’re to die for.”They know getting a good crop depends on how much they put into it.”

Sal: I currently give 10% of my pay check (ft-job) to the local church and then give an offering (extra-from pt-job or other financial blessings) to missions or community needs.

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Deep Thought: Was Jesus a “humanitarian”?

October 31, 2016 at 4:22 am | Posted in humanitarian, Jesus, Thought, Uncategorized | Leave a comment
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humanitarian dictionary.com
“having concern for or helping to improve the welfare and happiness of people. ..”

Charity openbible.info

=>Poor/Poverty/Homeless

The Widow’s Offering Luke 21English Standard Version (ESV) biblegateway.com


21 Jesus[a] looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the offering box, 2 and he saw a poor widow put in two small copper coins.[b] 3 And he said, “Truly, I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all of them. 4 For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on.”

“..Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys. ..”Luke 12

“…Give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.” ..”Luke 6

“…“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, … ..”Matthew 25

“…“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you…”Matthew 6

“And he answered them, “Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.”..”Luke 3

“..He has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent away empty. ..”Luke 1

-Women

Jesus And The Samaritan Woman.avi

John 4 New International Version (NIV)
Jesus Talks With a Samaritan Woman
biblegateway.com
“…4 Now he had to go through Samaria. 5 So he came to a town in Samaria called Sychar, near the plot of ground Jacob had given to his son Joseph. 6 Jacob’s well was there, and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It was about noon.

7 When a Samaritan woman came to draw water, Jesus said to her, “Will you give me a drink?” 8 (His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.)

9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?” (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.[a])

10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”

11 “Sir,” the woman said, “you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? 12 Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his livestock?”

13 Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, 14 but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”

15 The woman said to him, “Sir, give me this water so that I won’t get thirsty and have to keep coming here to draw water.”

16 He told her, “Go, call your husband and come back.”

17 “I have no husband,” she replied.

Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband. 18 The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.”

19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”

26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”..”

Was Jesus a Humanitarian? Is That Really In The Bible?

MISC:

Humanitarian Jesus: Social Justice and the Cross
by Christopher Benson
3 . 17 . 10 firstthings.com
“…“Don’t forget that Jesus Christ died to save sinners, not to bring about political change.” To those on the Religious Right, they say: “Don’t forget that Jesus spent much of his time helping the sick, the poor, and the needy.” A corrective and a call to action all in one, Humanitarian Jesus shows that evangelism and good works coexist harmoniously when social investment is subservient to and supportive of the church’s primary mission of worship, evangelism, and discipleship…”

Thoughts, suggestions, feedback, etc..?

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Deep Thought: What do I have to “give up” when becoming-growing (as) a Christian?

December 29, 2015 at 4:13 am | Posted in Uncategorized | Leave a comment
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A “friend” got “theological” with me this past weekend over the holidays. He asked, why this church doesn’t allow us to “practice” our old ways (e.g. shamanism, see-> Deuteronomy 18). I then thought about my former Catholic up-bringing. I didn’t think about it much when I was growing-up, but friends in college would question some of the “theological” practices (e.g. worship Mary, statues/idols in the sanctuary, priests are called “father, etc…). It’s not just “religious” stuff, but just “old” ways in our “sinful” lifestyle of the past (e.g. drunkeness or any other addictions that controlled/slaved you in bondage, etc…) that prevented one to a “personal relationship” with the Heavenly Father.

All That’s Inside -Jon Thurlow (Lyrics)


“Uploaded on Feb 19, 2011

(Let there be) no reservations, no walls
But just an open door in my heart for You

I want to give all that’s inside of my heart
I want to give all that’s inside of my heart to You

Everything else is fading away
Only love (only love) only love remains (only love remains)

It’s not the riches, it’s not the fame
It’s not the power, it’s not my name
Only love (only love) only love (only love) only love (only love)

So take the same love that’s inside Your heart
And put that same love deep inside of me

Everything else, everything else,
Everything else is fading (only love remains)”

Above was a song a friend from church played during our weekly prayer get-together (FOCUS), which really touched me about this topic that was discussed this past weekend.

Other Sources:

Bible verses about Parable of the Old and New Wineskins
(From Forerunner Commentary)
bibletools.org
Jesus Movie – Gospel of Matthew Chapter 9 1 of 2

New Wine, Old Wineskins and the Fear of Change= 10:27AM EDT 5/2/2012 J. Lee Grady charismamag.com
What Does the Bible Say About Righteousness? openbible.info

Hope and pray this will touch you all with the “New Year” (2016) coming-right around the corner! 🙂 Any thoughts, stories, shares, additional Bible verses, etc.. related to any of the content above? Would love to hear from ya..thanks!

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Deep Thought: Legalism in the Church of tithing??

December 26, 2015 at 3:21 am | Posted in Bible, Biblical, Deep, Thought, Uncategorized | Leave a comment
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I decided to write on this topic after a “close friend” told me about a church in the city kind of pressures people to “tithe” 10%. I told him that I used to be part of this “cultish” like church group that forced their attendees to tithe 10% also. I didn’t stay long enough for me to do it, but I heard that they would collect your bank account information and would have you automatically transfer that 10% automatically to their “church” denomination. I was still young in my Christian faith and it just didn’t “sound right” based on what I’ve read so far in the Bible. I ended up leaving this particular group even though I enjoyed the Bible study portion of their get-togethers/fellowship as I was “hungry” (seeking the faith).

What I can personally testify from my experiences of tithing is that I do this as an act of “obedience” of my faith based on what I’ve been taught and read via Scriptures. I’ve seen results of tithing 10% of my income every Sunday as I’ve been blessed (e.g. financially). Plus, I do it “cheerfully” knowing it’s going to be used for building God’s Kingdom (e.g. faith that what I’m giving is helping my local church’s mission of “reaching out to the lost” and “making disciples of all nations”). If you are uncertain on whether you should give to your local church. I suggest exploring the mission of your local church and if you believe in it-is it Biblical?

I’m no expert in this topic, so I decided to share some resources that I found credible to help answer some question “we” all may have on this topic:

Teachings

Lesson 4: Why You Should NOT Tithe (Selected Scriptures), bible.org
“…The Bible teaches that God, who richly has supplied us with all good things, wants us “to be generous and ready to share” (1 Tim. 6:18). But what does generosity mean? Isn’t giving 10 percent of my income to the Lord’s work being generous? If not 10 percent, how much should I give?..”

Before I critique this view, let me point out that there are some commendable points regarding tithing: (1) Those who tithe are often acting in obedience to what they believe God has commanded. (2) Tithing gets some to increase what they give. (3) Tithing helps consistency and discipline in giving. But consider these seven reasons why tithing is not God’s standard for Christians:

A. Tithing was a part of the law of Moses; believers are not under the law…

What does the Bible say about Christian tithing? Should a Christian tithe? gotquestions.org
“… Answer: Many Christians struggle with the issue of tithing. In some churches giving is over-emphasized. At the same time, many Christians refuse to submit to the biblical exhortations about making offerings to the Lord. Tithing/giving is intended to be a joy and a blessing. Sadly, that is sometimes not the case in the church today…”
Tithing – You Do Not Need To Give 10% To The Church!

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Original Message Title: “The Wrong Time To Tithe”
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Comments:

“…I have seen a change in my life while I have been contributing tithes……God don’t owe me anything for doing that. I wanna continue being obedient to the lord to express my love. If giving money is my toughest sacrifice then god is worthy because Christ sacrifice his life for me...”

The Legalism Lie of Tithing, or the lack of faith of those who demand it.


“Has a pastor or some other church leader ever told you that you must tithe because that is what the Bible says you should give? Have you been told that “you’re not giving generously to God” or that “you’re robbing God” (Mal. 3:8-9) because you’re not giving at least 10% of your gross income to your local church? Have you been instructed that “giving 10% is a good starting point” for your giving, meaning that you should give at least 10%? Have you been told that “you should at least tithe because you can’t out-give God”? ..”

Comments:

” Tiny Teardrops 1 year ago
I am a firm believer in helping others, and giving to a worthy cause. I try to donate & help anywhere I can, when I can. I have always enjoyed helping people, especially children & even animals.
· 1..”

Above are just “some” of many websites/videos I found on this topic. Feel free to search for more, but key thing is “seeking” our Heavenly Father about it. Feel free to share any suggestions, comments, stories, etc…

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Sharing God’s Love in Our City’s Streets?

July 19, 2014 at 10:09 pm | Posted in Uncategorized | Leave a comment
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Do you ever encounter “homeless” people begging you for money whenever you walk the streets of a city or even driving around a neighborhood? What do you do? Do we walk pass them to ignore them? What would Jesus do?

I admit, I have many times ignored these individuals because I was in a hurry or just had bad “judgment” on them. Well, last weekend I decided to “do something” . I was walking from

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…to the Minneapolis Convention Center on a Sunday morning (July 13th 2014). I was there for the All-Star festivities (e.g. Fan Fest). As I was walking towards Nicollet Avenue, a guy came by walking besides me asking for money. I then told him I rather not give him money, but instead of food. He declined and asked for money to buy some food instead. Well, he was very persistent, which I kept being persistent. I then “tried” to quote a Bible verse “Silver or gold I don’t have, but I have Jesus” (paraphrased this because I forgot the exact order..lol).

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Anyways, he just continued to walk with me to Nicollet Avenue as he shared his name (Isaac). I then smiled and replied, “that’s a name in the Bible”. He then said, “I know, I’m already born-again and saved” (I questioned myself in thought, “what is he doing here then?”). Anyways, I know we all go through some “wildernesses”, so I wanted to help this guy out to build his faith too. I asked him about his background, which he told me he already has a job. However, it’s only with a temp agency. I’ve had jobs with temp agencies before, so I somewhat can relate. I asked him what he’s good at , but he was persistent about the money thing again. Along the walk, I noticed a street preacher (lady) reading Bible verses, which is the same corner where I’ve seen others before. I thought to my self that this is so ironic! I then told him to come to Morris where there are many jobs available. He said, he might do this in the future. I then asked about his family, which he told me he has siblings in Indiana. I asked what made him move here from there. He replied, the “jobs opportunities”.

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We then sat down in a bench where there were other “homeless” people around the area getting ready for the “big day” to beg for money. I told him I would love to pray for him about his current circumstances, which he obliged. I was chatting too much as I was holding his hand about to pray that he told me, “I thought we were going to pray together”. I stopped talking and started praying for him with a smile. He then persistently ask for money again, so I told him “no” and took him to the Walgreens around the corner. I told him he can get whatever he “needs”, so he shopped around and picked a deli sandwich and a snack (?). I even told him to get a drink as it’s supposed to get warm later on. He picked a drink and kindly double checked if he can get one. We then went to the counter and I bought his items As we left the store, I gave him more encouraging words (forgot what I said) as he joined his peers by the bench we were sitting before to pray.

I then continued my way to the Minneapolis Convention Center for Fan Fest 2014!

T-Mobile All-Star FanFesthttp://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2014/index.jsp?content=asg_fanfestJoin MLB at 2014 T-Mobile All-Star FanFest http://youtu.be/YOcGbH5ktFo

What do you think? Did I do the “right” thing? Is this what Jesus would’ve done? Did I share God’s love? What could’ve I done better?

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