Neutral Perspective: “Migrant & Immigrant Workers” take Jobs Nobody (Natives) Wants & Do Want?

DO WANT

How Unskilled Immigrants Hurt Our Economy
A handful of industries get low-cost labor, and the taxpayers foot the bill.

Steven Malanga
Summer 2006 The Social Order
California city-journal.org
“…Velasquez’s story illustrates some of the fault lines in the nation’s current, highly charged, debate on immigration. Since the mid-1960s, America has welcomed nearly 30 million legal immigrants and received perhaps another 15 million illegals, numbers unprecedented in our history. These immigrants have picked our fruit, cleaned our homes, cut our grass, worked in our factories, and washed our cars. But they have also crowded into our hospital emergency rooms, schools, and government-subsidized aid programs, sparking a fierce debate about their contributions to our society and the costs they impose on it…

Yet while these workers add little to our
economy, they come at great cost, because they are not economic abstractions but human beings, with their own culture and ideas—often at odds with our own. Increasing numbers of them arrive with little education and none of the skills necessary to succeed in a modern economy. Many may wind up stuck on our lowest economic rungs, where they will rely on something that immigrants of other generations didn’t have: a vast U.S. welfare and social-services apparatus that has enormously amplified the cost of immigration. Just as welfare reform and other policies are helping to shrink America’s underclass by weaning people off such social programs, we are importing a new, foreign-born underclass. As famed free-market economist Milton Friedman puts it: “It’s just obvious that you can’t have free immigration and a welfare state…..”

Immigration Is Hurting The U.S. Worker By Steven A. Camarota on April 1, 2007 cis.org
“..The United States needs fewer immigrants, not more. Lower levels of immigration, both legal and illegal make sense for my country because the growing number of undereducated people crossing our borders have hurt less educated native-born workers. The U.S. needs to focus on reducing overall immigration levels. This means a drop in the number of immigrants from Latin America, which accounts for half of the new arrivals, many of them at the lower end of the educational spectrum…”

Of Course Immigrants Take Jobs From People; But They Also Create Them For Others Tim Worstall , Contributor Apr 4, 2015 @ 09:07 AM 15,547 forbes.com
“..One of the standard arguments against immigration is that those immigrants then take a job or two that could have been done by some native born worker. This is, of course, entirely true: immigrants do indeed take jobs that could have been done by someone else, native born or not. However, that’s not the entire story. Immigrants also bring with them (whether they are documented or not) their own set of desires and needs. And fulfilling those desires and needs thus creates a job or two that other people can do: some of those will obviously go to the native born. So, yes, immigration does “steal jobs” but it also creates them. What we’d actually like to know then is what is the net effect: and the net effect is undoubtedly beneficial overall. Thus the reason that economists generally believe that immigration is a good thing..”

Migrant Workers Hurt by Slowdown

NEUTRAL

Yes, Immigration Hurts American Workers By GEORGE J. BORJAS September/October 2016 politico.com
The candidates tell drastically different stories about immigration. They’re both skipping half the truth.
“..Here’s the problem with the current immigration debate: Neither side is revealing the whole picture. Trump might cite my work, but he overlooks my findings that the influx of immigrants can potentially be a net good for the nation, increasing the total wealth of the population. Clinton ignores the hard truth that not everyone benefits when immigrants arrive. For many Americans, the influx of immigrants hurts their prospects significantly.

This second message might be hard for many Americans to process, but anyone who tells you that immigration doesn’t have any negative effects doesn’t understand how it really works. When the supply of workers goes up, the price that firms have to pay to hire workers goes down. Wage trends over the past half-century suggest that a 10 percent increase in the number of workers with a particular set of skills probably lowers the wage of that group by at least 3 percent. Even after the economy has fully adjusted, those skill groups that received the most immigrants will still offer lower pay relative to those that received fewer immigrants…

We don’t need to rely on complex statistical calculations to see the harm being done to some workers. Simply look at how employers have reacted. A decade ago, Crider Inc., a chicken processing plant in Georgia, was raided by immigration agents, and 75 percent of its workforce vanished over a single weekend. Shortly after, Crider placed an ad in the local newspaper announcing job openings at higher wages. Similarly, the flood of recent news reports on abuse of the H-1B visa program shows that firms will quickly dismiss their current tech workforce when they find cheaper immigrant workers…

When we look at the overall value of immigration, there’s one more complicating factor: Immigrants receive government assistance at higher rates than natives. The higher cost of all the services provided to immigrants and the lower taxes they pay (because they have lower earnings) inevitably implies that on a year-to-year basis immigration creates a fiscal hole of at least $50 billion—a burden that falls on the native population.”

Are immigrants taking U.S. jobs? debate.org

Does Illegal Immigration Disadvantage American Workers? immigration.procon.org

Does Immigration Cost Jobs? By Viveca Novak Posted on May 13, 2010 factcheck.org
Economists say immigration, legal or illegal, doesn’t hurt American workers.
‘..Miller makes it all sound so easy: Eight million illegal immigrants working in the U.S., 15 million unemployed American citizens and legal immigrants — we could cut the number of unemployed in half if we just booted out the illegal workers. “The numbers are simple,” he says.

The numbers certainly would be simple, if they worked that way. But they don’t…

Immigrant workers “create almost as many” jobs as they occupy, “and maybe more,” said Madeleine Sumption, policy analyst at the nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute, which is funded by a range of foundations, corporations and international organizations. “They often create the jobs they work in.” In addition, “they buy things, and they make the economy bigger,” she told us…”

Do Undocumented Immigrants Hurt The Economy? Not Exactly – Newsy
https://youtu.be/ZoWfjWSQ_yo
*they pay for social security, which “they” will unlikely see using in the future

Stats

The Effects of Immigration on the United States’ budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu
“…Despite these increases in labor supply, in many cases immigrants appear to complement American-born workers rather than replacing them. Because less-educated immigrants often lack the linguistic skills required for many jobs, they tend to take jobs in manual labor-intensive occupations such as agriculture and construction. Even for low-skilled native-born workers in these industries, the effects of increased competition from immigrants are ambiguous, as many take advantage of their superior communication abilities and shift into occupations where these skills are more valuable, such as personal services and sales.
Similarly, highly educated immigrants face a disadvantage in communication-intensive jobs, and therefore tend to work in scientific and technical occupations. Highly skilled natives in management, media, and other culture- and language-dependent jobs face little competition from high skilled immigrants. The inflow of foreign labor is, therefore, concentrated in a subset of occupations that tend to employ many immigrants already. Consequently, it is earlier immigrants who face the greatest increase in competitive pressure….

More often than not, immigrants are less educated and their incomes are lower at all ages than those of natives. As a result, immigrants pay less in federal, state, and local taxes and use federally-funded entitlement programs such as Medicaid, SNAP, and other benefits at higher rates than natives. But they are also less likely than comparably low income natives to receive public assistance. Moreover, when they do take public assistance, the average value of benefits received is below average, implying a smaller net cost to the federal government relative to a comparable low income native.

However, immigrants often impose a heavier tax burden on natives at the state and local level. Immigrants — particularly those with low levels of education and income — generally have larger families and more children using public K-12 education, the largest component of state and local budgets. Furthermore, if immigrants’ children are not already fluent English speakers, the per-student cost of education may be substantially higher than for native-born children.
These factors impose short-term costs on state budgets. Over the long term, however, the upward economic mobility and taxpaying lifetime of second generation immigrants more than offset the initial fiscal burden.

NOBODY WANT

Debunking the Myth of the Job-Stealing Immigrant On Money By ADAM DAVIDSON MARCH 24, 2015 nytimes.com

“..But immigrants aren’t oranges. It might seem intuitive that when there is an increase in the supply of workers, the ones who were here already will make less money or lose their jobs. Immigrants don’t just increase the supply of labor, though; they simultaneously increase demand for it, using the wages they earn to rent apartments, eat food, get haircuts, buy cellphones. That means there are more jobs building apartments, selling food, giving haircuts and dispatching the trucks that move those phones. Immigrants increase the size of the overall population, which means they increase the size of the economy. Logically, if immigrants were “stealing” jobs, so would every young person leaving school and entering the job market; countries should become poorer as they get larger. In reality, of course, the opposite happens.

Most anti-immigration arguments I hear are variations on the Lump of Labor Fallacy. That immigrant has a job. If he didn’t have that job, somebody else, somebody born here, would have it. This argument is wrong, or at least wildly oversimplified. But it feels so correct, so logical. And it’s not just people like my grandfather making that argument. Our government policy is rooted in it…”

Immigrants Aren’t Stealing American Jobs Tanvi Misra, CityLab Oct 21, 2015 theatlantic.com
More evidence surfaces that low-skilled native workers pursue different jobs than their immigrant counterparts.
“..Urban’s Maria E. Enchautegui studied a cohort of 16 million American workers without high school diplomas. She found that within this group, immigrants and native-born workers do very different jobs. In fact, she writes that native and immigrant workers at this level of education are much more dissimilar when it comes to their role in the job market than are workers at other levels of educational attainment. Here’s how she summarizes these results and their implication in a blog post:..”

Immigrants do jobs natives won’t do openborders.info
“..One of the arguments offered by supporters of expanded immigration, particularly in the context of low-skilled immigration to the United States, is that “immigrants do jobs that natives won’t do.” This argument, in the form stated, is incorrect, or at any rate, misleading. However, it does capture a conclusion many economists reach, which some have summarized as: “immigrants do jobs that wouldn’t exist if the immigrants weren’t there to do them.”

This position has been critiqued by many who are critical of immigration. For instance, in a syndicated column titled Immigration Taboos, Thomas Sowell writes:..

However, the actual economic argument is more subtle, and not so easy to ridicule. The key is to remember that prices not only affect the quantity of labor supply, but also the quantity of labor demand. If the supply curve shrinks inward because immigrants are not allowed in the labor market, then the price of labor increases, but the quantity supplied decreases, so overall, there are fewer jobs and less production…”

Foreign Workers Take Jobs Americans Don’t Want

Stats

Jobs Americans Won’t Do? numbersusa.org
“..According to the Pew Hispanic Center, there are approximately 8.3 million illegal workers in the United States. Only 4% of illegal workers work in agriculture (Pew Hispanic Trust, Tables 5 & 6), where most laborers are foreign-born and employers have a legal guestworker program (the H-2a visa) to supply all the seasonal labor they need. Nationally, 25% (of 1.4 million) crop laborers are U.S. citizens; 21% are legal immigrant workers (including H-2a workers); and 53% are illegal workers (National Agricultural Workers Survey). In the midwest, 48% are citizens, 23% are legal permanent residents, and 29% are illegal workers…’

5 Reasons Why Immigrants Do Not Take Natives’ Jobs By Prof. Amelie F. Constant, Ph.D. huffingtonpost.com
“..In my World of Labor article “Do migrants take the jobs of native workers?“ I lay down the pros and cons of the impact of migration on natives and show that ‘migrants rarely take native workers’ jobs, and indeed they tend to boost employment effects in the long term.’ The five reasons are: a) self-employed migrants directly create new jobs; b) migrant innovators indirectly create jobs; c) new migrants fill labor shortages and lubricate the labor markets; d) the high-skilled contribute to technological adaptation and the low-skilled to occupational mobility, specialization, and human capital creation thus creating new jobs; e) by raising demand, immigrants cause firms to expand and hire more workers.

Public opinion research carried out in the U.S., France, Germany and the UK after the 2008-2009 recession also supports that finding. Accordingly, most people believe that immigrants fill job vacancies and many believe that they create jobs, rather than taking jobs away from native workers (see Figure 1)…”

Jobs Americans Won’t Do? A Detailed Look at Immigrant Employment by Occupation By Steven A. Camarota and Karen Zeigler on August 17, 2009 cis.org
“…This analysis tests the often-made argument that immigrants only do jobs Americans don’t want. If the argument is correct, there should be occupations comprised entirely or almost entirely of immigrants. But Census Bureau data collected from 2005 to 2007, which allow for very detailed analysis, show that even before the recession there were only a tiny number of majority-immigrant occupations. (Click here to see detailed table.)

Among the findings:

Of the 465 civilian occupations, only four are majority immigrant. These four occupations account for less than 1 percent of the total U.S. workforce. Moreover, native-born Americans comprise 47 percent of workers in these occupations.
Many jobs often thought to be overwhelmingly immigrant are in fact majority native-born: ..”

Agriculture

‘They’re Scared’: Immigration Fears Exacerbate Migrant Farmworker Shortage 5:48 September 27, 20178:00 AM ET Melissa Block Marisa Penaloza – Square
“..As in the rest of the country, growers in heavily agricultural northern Michigan rely overwhelmingly on migrant laborers to work the fields and orchards. Most of the pickers are from Mexico. Growers say it’s just about impossible to find Americans to do this work. ..”

Wages rise on California farms. Americans still don’t want the job By Natalie Kitroeff and Geoffrey Mohan March 17, 2017 | reporting from Stockton, Calif. latimes.com
Trump’s immigration crackdown is supposed to help U.S. citizens. For California farmers, it’s worsening a desperate labor shortage.
‘..Solorio is one of a growing number of agricultural businessmen who say they face an urgent shortage of workers. The flow of labor began drying up when President Obama tightened the border. Now President Trump is promising to deport more people, raid more companies and build a wall on the southern border…”

That has made California farms a proving ground for the Trump team’s theory that by cutting off the flow of immigrants they will free up more jobs for American-born workers and push up their wages.

So far, the results aren’t encouraging for farmers or domestic workers.

Farmers are being forced to make difficult choices about whether to abandon some of the state’s hallmark fruits and vegetables, move operations abroad, import workers under a special visa or replace them altogether with machines.

Growers who can afford it have already begun raising worker pay well beyond minimum wage. Wages for crop production in California increased by 13% from 2010 to 2015, twice as fast as average pay in the state, according to a Los Angeles Times analysis of data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics…”

-Dairy Farms

The Worst Job In New York: Immigrant America
https://youtu.be/QXUdozfL7iM
“VICE News
Published on Jul 23, 2014
Subscribe to VICE News here: http://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE-News

Milking cows is a dirty, monotonous job, and as we found out in our latest episode of Immigrant America, it’s not a job many unemployed Americans are willing to do. But for some reason the government doesn’t give dairy farms a way to recruit foreign workers legally, so most feel forced to hire illegal immigrants. This makes the farms and their workers easy targets for immigration authorities looking to fill deportation quotas. We went to upstate New York to try to understand the cat and mouse game going on between dairy farms and immigration authorities. We found a lot of wasted taxpayer money, racial profiling, and a broken system that unnecessarily treats family farmers and hardworking immigrants like criminals.

Read more: Unauthorized Immigrants Paid $100 Billion Into Social Security Over Last Decade: http://bit.ly/1o7iyfZ”

Food Prices Will Go Up

What Would America’s Food Supply Look Like Without Immigrant Labor? Wyatt Marshall Jan 31 2017, 2:00pm munchies.vice.com
If Trump follows through with plans to restrict immigration and deport undocumented immigrants, some industry experts say that farms and factories could be left scrambling, and the price tag for food could inflate dramatically.

Good News Sociology
https://www.facebook.com/groups/139706352858524/

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Deep Thought: Prayers for Las Vegas Shooting Concert Victims Affected

Media Reports

Las Vegas shooting updates: 59 people are dead and more than 525 injured Oct. 2, 2017, 11:22 p.m. latimes.com
“…At least 59 people were killed and 525 others injured after a gunman opened fire Sunday night at a country music festival across the street from the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino on the Las Vegas Strip, authorities said.

What you need to know:

The FBI says there is no evidence of a connection to international terrorist groups, despite a claim of responsibility by Islamic State.
The suspect, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock of Mesquite, Nev., was found dead when a SWAT team burst into the hotel room from which he was firing at the crowd.
Portraits of the victims are emerging. One of the dead includes an off-duty police officer who was attending the concert. Rachael Parker, a Manhattan Beach Police records technician, was also among the dead.
The suspect’s brother said the family is in shock and that Stephen Paddock “has never even drawn a gun.”..”

Las Vegas shooting is a false flag and could it have been Geno Rosen from Sandy Hook as the shooter

Isis claims Las Vegas shooting: What have they said? | The Independent
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/las-vegas-shooting-isis-islamic-state-stephen-paddock-repsonsibility-claim-true-false-trump-nevada-a7979131.html
“..Isis has claimed that the gunman who killed more than 50 people in Las Vegas converted to Islam several months ago.

The group did not name Stephen Paddock, the man identified by police as the shooter, in a statement released via its Amaq propaganda agency.
..”

Police said the 64-year-old white American opened fire from the 32nd floor of a nearby hotel, where he had multiple weapons and is believed to have killed himself.

More than 50 people have been confirmed dead and 200 injured in the shooting, making it the deadliest in US history.

The shooting started shortly after 10pm local time, with footage showing concert-goers throwing themselves to the ground and running as several extended rounds of automatic gunfire rang out….
It came after the group claimed responsibility for a stabbing attack that left two young women dead in the French city of Marseille earlier on Sunday.

Isis was also linked to a car and knife attack in Edmonton, Canada, where a police officer found a flag used by the group in the perpetrator’s car.

Las Vegas Gunman Stephen Paddock Wired $100K To Philippines, Where Girlfriend Traveled: Report Newsweek Christal Hayes,Newsweek 1 hour 33 minutes (10.3.17) ago yahoo.com
“…It was not immediately clear who the money was wired to or the date when the cash was sent. Paddock’s girlfriend, Marilou Danley, is from the Philippines and has family there.

Trending: Marco Rubio Says He’d Be President Now If He’d Watched ‘Game of Thrones’ Two Years Ago

She was not in the country Sunday when Paddock, her life-in boyfriend, attacked concertgoers on the Las Vegas Strip, leaving 59 dead and more than 500 others injured during a country music festival.

Danley was in the Philippines the day of the attack, according to NBC News. She traveled to Hong Kong on September 25 and is expected to return to the U.S. Wednesday, the news network reported.

At first, authorities called Danley an “associate” of Paddock because her ID was used to get his hotel room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.

She was later cleared of any involvement in the shooting because she was not in the country, but Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo cautioned that could change because police want to speak when her when she returns to the U.S…”

Relations

-Marilou Danley

Danley returned to Philippines – BI source
By Evelyn Macairan (The Philippine Star) | Updated October 4, 2017 – 12:00am

“…MANILA, Philippines — Marilou Danley, the Filipino-Australian earlier considered as a person of interest in the Las Vegas, Nevada shooting that killed 59 persons, has reportedly arrived in the country.

The Bureau of Immigration (BI), however, declined to reveal the travel records of Danley, 62, that would have confirmed if she is indeed in the country.

Danley reportedly arrived in the Philippines last Sept. 25 from Hong Kong..

“Based on reports, Marilou Danley is not a suspect and appears to have been cleared by the police, we are not inclined to release any information at this time, the information being confidential,” said BI spokesperson Ma. Antonette Mangrobang.

But they assured their foreign counterparts of the BI’s cooperation. ..”
New details emerge about Marilou Danley, girlfriend of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock by William Wan, Sandhya Somashekhar and Marwa Eltagouri October 5 at 6:33 AM Play Video 1:10 washingtonpost.com
“..After being questioned, Danley said in a statement that she had no clue about his plans to carry out the massacre and pledged to cooperate with authorities struggling to determine what sparked the deadliest mass shooting in modern American history.

“I knew Stephen Paddock as a kind, caring, quiet man,” said Danley in a statement read by her lawyer Matthew Lombard, a criminal defense attorney. “He never said anything to me or took any action that I was aware of that I understood in any way to be a warning that something horrible like this was going to happen.”..

..

Danley is from the Philippines, but she lived for many years in Australia, where authorities have confirmed she is a citizen.

Danley has two sisters who live in Australia, according to news outlets there and old Facebook posts by the sisters, which have been deleted in recent days…

They were adorable — big man, tiny woman. He loved her. He doted on her,” Eric said at his home in Florida. The two often gambled side by side, he said.

Employees at a Starbucks in Mesquite, Nev., however, described the couple’s relationship differently. A supervisor at the coffee shop told the Los Angeles Times that Paddock often berated Danley in public. The Starbucks is the only one in town and is inside the Virgin River Casino.

“It happened a lot,” Esperanza Mendoza, supervisor of the Starbucks, told the Times. He would verbally abuse her when Danley asked to use his casino card to buy food…

More details have also emerged on Paddock, the gunman.

From 1976 to 1985, Paddock worked federal government jobs: as a letter carrier for the Postal Service, an agent for the IRS and an auditor for U.S. government’s Defense Contract Audit Agency, according to the Office of Personnel Management….

Heroes

Marine who stole truck to save Las Vegas shooting victims gets message from its owner Yahoo News Video 4 hours ago (10.4.17)
“..Iraq veteran Taylor Winston sprang into action to save lives Sunday night during the Las Vegas shooting, stealing a pick-up truck and transporting victims to the hospital. ..”

Victims

Survivors

MN father shot in Vegas reunited with kids
Zach Lashway, KARE 6:21 PM. CDT October 09, 2017 kare11.com
“AS VEGAS – A Minnesota native seriously hurt in the Las Vegas shooting has been moved from the ICU and is now able to spend time with his children at the hospital.

Phil Aurich was shot in the back as he was running away on Oct. 1, joining the list of well over 500 people injured in the mass shooting at a packed outdoor concert.

“We got a call in the middle of the night,” said Phil’s sister-in-law Sheila Aurich. “And Ben’s phone rang and it was Phil. We turned it off because we knew he was at the concert and I was like, ‘It’s probably a butt dial.'”

But seconds later, Sheila and her husband Ben, Phil’s brother, received another call.

“There was all this background noise and again started to think again, it was just a butt dial, until we heard Ali screaming, ‘Ben, Phil has been shot.'”

Phil and his girlfriend, Ali, ran for cover.

“They had seen three ambulances, and a cop car blocking them off,” Sheila said. “So they ran toward that, but as they got there, all three pulled away and then the cop sitting there said, ‘I am not supposed to leave, but get in.'”

Phil was still conscious when they arrived at University Medical Center. He was rushed into surgery. Twelve hours later, he would undergo another operation.

“He had some fairly serious organ damage,” Sheila said. “They had to remove his spleen, part of his colon, a ruptured diaphragm, which collapsed a lung and a fractured rib.”

The 36-year-old father of two spent most of last week in ICU, not able to see his children when he began his recovery.
.”..”

Died

Read complete list of names from coroner clarkcountynv.gov

“..​​​​Clark County Coroner releases official list of decedents from the Oct. 1 shooting incident on the Las Vegas Strip.

Coroner John Fudenberg extended condolences to all those affected by the incident and encouraged families to contact the Family Information Center located at 1704 Pinto Lane in Las Vegas if they need any assistance related to the Coroner’s Office processes. If you are unable to travel to the center, a hotline has been established at (702) 455-4281. The hours of operation are 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. daily until further notice…

Decedent ​DOB ​Gender
​Ahlers, Hannah Lassette ​6/2/1983 ​Female
​Alvarado, Heather Lorraine ​9/20/1982​​ ​Female
​Anderson, Dorene ​4/16/1968 ​Female
​Barnette, Carrie Rae ​12/16/1982 ​Female
​Beaton, Jack Reginald ​12/10/1962 ​Male
​Berger, Stephen Richard ​9/30/1973 ​Male
​Bowers, Candice Ryan ​8/10/1977 ​Female
Burditus, Denise​ ​6/5/1967 ​Female
​Casey, Sandra ​11/1/1982 ​Female
​Castilla, Andrea Lee Anna ​9/29/1989 ​Female
​Cohen, Denise ​8/2/1959 ​Female
​Davis, Austin William ​6/20/1988 ​Male
​Day Jr., Thomas ​10/29/1962 ​Male
​Duarte, Christiana ​8/7/1995 ​​Female
​Etcheber, Stacee Ann ​2/26/1967 ​Female
​Fraser, Brian S. ​8/20/1978 ​Male
​Galvan, Keri ​8/20/1986 ​Female
​Gardner, Dana Leann ​7/6/1965 ​Female
​Gomez, Angela C. ​12/26/1996 ​Female
​Guillen, Rocio ​12/20/1976 ​Female
​Hartfield, Charleston ​5/16/1983 ​Male
​Hazencomb, Christopher ​9/27/1973 ​Male
​Irvine, Jennifer Topaz ​6/6/1975 ​Female
​Kimura, Teresa Nicol ​3/24/1979 ​Female
​Klymchuk, Jessica ​5/1/1983 ​Female
​Kreibaum, Carly Anne ​12/9/1983 ​Female
​LeRocque, Rhonda M. ​8/29/1975 ​Female
​Link, Victor L. ​9/7/1962 ​Male
​Mclldoon, Jordan ​10/6/1993 ​Male
​Meadows, Kelsey Breanne ​6/26/1989 ​Female

Decedent
​D​OB G​ender
Medig, Calla-Mar​ie 8/8/1989 Female
​​​Melton, James 8/2/1988
Male
​Mestas, Patricia ​7/25/1950 ​Female
​Meyer, Austin Cooper ​​9/18/1993 ​Male
​​Murfitt, Adrian Allan
7/5/1982
Male
​​Parker, Rachael Kathleen 12/16/1983
​Female
​Parks, Jennifer 1/18/1981
​Female
​Parsons, Carolyn Lee ​12/28/1985
​Female
​Patterson, Lisa Marie ​6/26/1971
​Female
​Phippen, John Joseph ​​10/25/1960 ​​Male
​Ramirez, Melissa V. ​11/29/1990 ​Female
Rivera, Jordyn N.
​7/22/1996
​Female
​​Robbins, Quinton ​3/21/1997 ​Male
​Robinson, Cameron​ 1/1/1989
​Male
​​Roe, Tara Ann 9/1/1983
​​Female
Romero-Muniz, Lisa
​​5/19/1969 ​Female
​Roybal, Christopher Louis 10/9/1988
​​Male
​Schwanbeck, Brett 1/31/1956
Male​
​Schweitzer, Bailey ​4/5/1997
​Female
​Shipp, Laura Anne ​5/9/1967 ​Female
​Silva, Erick​ 8/19/1996
Male
​Smith, Susan ​8/24/1964 ​Female
Stewart, Brennan Lee
2/19/1987 ​Male
​Taylor, Derrick Dean ​9/25/1961
Male
​Tonks, Neysa C.

7/27/1971
Female
​​Vo, Michelle ​1/10/1985
Female
Von Tillow, Kurt Allen
12/4/1961 ​Male
​Wolfe Jr., William W. ​​10/15/1974 ​Male
​ ​ ​

​Suspect ​ ​
​Paddock, Stephen ​4/9/1953 ​​Male..

Read More About the Lives of the Las Vegas Shooting Victims lasvegasnow.com

Missing MN man in Las Vegas has died, parents say
Associated Press and KARE 11 Staff , KARE 10:37 PM. CDT October 03, 2017 kare11.com
“..SHOREWOOD, Minn. – The parents of a Minnesota man who was missing after celebrating his 44th birthday at the Las Vegas concert where a mass shooting took place say they received the news on Tuesday that he has died.

Mary Berger says her son, Steve, was attending the country music concert with his roommate and other friends and had not been heard from since Stephen Paddock opened fire from a high-rise hotel and killed 59 people and wounded more than 500 more.

On Tuesday afternoon, Mary Berger received the heartbreaking news from the coroner’s office in Las Vegas that her son was one of the confirmed deaths. ..”
*see Steve Berger: Just celebrated turning 44 Posted: Oct 05, 2017 01:40 PM PDT Updated: Oct 06, 2017 11:59 AM PDT lasvegasnow.com

Las Vegas: The fake photos shared after tragedies By Chris Bell BBC News 2 October 2017 bbc.com
“..And many of the same photos crop up again; tragedy memes played for laughs and retweets, even as the real victims still lie dead, dying and injured.

Probably the most well-known of these memes features an image of US comedian Sam Hyde. His image has been circulating again following the attack in Las Vegas. CNN mistakenly included his image reporting on a college shooting in Oregon in October 2015.
..”

It’s all FAKE folks! Crisis actors EXPOSED
https://youtu.be/wQIL0YlX5d0
*see other related mass shootings (e.g. Sandy Hook)

False Flag??? (“evidence NOT matching what was reported as “facts””)

Prophecy/Future Predictions

What’s New & Mysterious In Las Vegas Massacre?, 1817
https://youtu.be/ER21Z3Wxjs4
The Still Report
“..
Synopsis: Good evening, I’m still reporting on the Las Vegas tragedy.
Here is what’s new:
1. “YourNewsWire” reports the following post on 4Chan on Sept. 11th predicting the Las Vegas shooting in a series of three mysterious posts:
Post #1 @ 05:08
Look I feel bad for some of you on this website. So I’ll let you in on a little secret. If you live in Las Vegas or Henderson stay inside tomorrow. Don’t go anywhere where there are large groups of people. Also if you see three black vans parked next to each other immediately leave the area. You’re welcome-John
Post #2 @05:28
It’s called the high incident project. They want to make the American public think that places with extremely high security aren’t say. They are trying to create more regulations. You will see laws proposed within the next few years to put up more metal detectors and other security devices. Media and politicians will be saying places with lots of police need even more police. I can’t guarantee anything will happen tomorrow but Las Vegas is on their minds.-JohnPost #3 @ 05:55
If there plan a successful state of Nevada I will pass a law in the future making all casinos have mandatory metal detectors and backscatter machines. Soon after a federal law will be passed to put these machines and universities, high schools, federal buildings, you name it. OSI Systems and Chertoff are the main producers of these machines. Sometime around 2020, Chertoff and OSI will merge into a single company. After they merge the owners will sell off all their stock and make billions in profits. Mr. Chertoff has been in contact with Sheldon Adelson. Mr. Adelson will become a huge sponsor of these machines and he will be the first to put them in his casinos when the law passes. This is my last message for now. Don’t expect me to return anytime soon-John

2. Marilou Danley, the girlfriend of the Las Vegas shooter, has returned to the United States cooperating with the FBI.
3. Danley has admitted that the shooter wired her $100,000 in the Philippines one week before the massacre, telling her to go buy a house for her and her family. Shooter’s brother says, “We’re wealthy people. $100,000 isn’t a lot of money.”
4. A man who looks like the shooter was dressed in a pink NASA t-shirt was spotted some weeks ago at a Bernie Sanders rally against Trump. ..”

Robert David Steele: Las Vegas Massacre False Flag Case Study
https://youtu.be/BdplTd1sNR8
Sarah Westall
“..Published on Oct 7, 2017

Robert David Steele rejoins the program to discuss the Las Vegas Massacre and his summary of what he believes really occurred. We also discuss false flags and compare this event to false flags in history (i.e. patsy, multiple shooters, shots from wrong direction, crisis actors, etc…).

Steele, Robert. “Las Vegas Massacre: A Hybrid False-Flag, Treason, or an Act of War?,” American Herald Tribune, October 6, 2017: https://ahtribune.com/las-vegas-massa…

Support the show at https://www.patreon.com/SarahWestall
..”

“Hydro false flag” (described by former CIA), multiple shooters,m-16, real shooters behind the stage, etc.. Michael Chertoff (sp?) just got in charge of Super Bowl, Donald T. said “you’ve seen nothing” it (getting drugged), “won’t want to be near the Super Bowl” venue, etc..; FDR allowed “Great Depression” (book The Fruits of Graft: Great Depressions amazon.com) an attack of the “middle class”; JFK killed by CIA using Italian mobsters as the cover-up; USS Liberty destroyed by own people as they were surveying; 9-11 cover-up;

Was The Mandalay Bay Shooting a False Flag?

The Truth Factory
Witness says a couple (Hispanic “looking” 5′ 5″) warned them that people will be killed prior to shooting

More Question on Vegas Mystery, 1830

*Fox News interviews former cop/attorney on weapon use and no gun shells in “32nd floor”, suspect’s house broken into after shooting and wasn’t “secured”?? timeline don’t make sense (security guard in hotel)

Other Shooters or Accomplices in another Floor??

🏴 Proof Las Vegas Shooting Was a FALSE FLAG Attack – Shooter on 4th Floor

Mandalay Bay, Multiple Shooters, Las Vegas, FALSE FLAG? CIA Mind Control?

Published on Oct 3, 2017
The Mandalay Bay shooting. Cab driver believes it comes from the 10th floor but the official narrative says the 32nd floor, one man.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-02/
Did he act alone?

Despite initial reports of multiple gunmen, police do not believe at this time that there were any other attackers. Sheriff Joseph Lombardo, of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, described Paddock as a “lone wolf”. Officers were initially seeking his traveling companion – Marilou Danley – who has now been located. She is believed to have been his roommate, however the police have since announced they do not believe she was involved in the shooting.

It’s all FAKE folks! Crisis actors EXPOSED
https://youtu.be/wQIL0YlX5d0

Flat Earth Chick

*”they started shooting..someone in the parking lot shooting..”

Evidence Suggests Las Vegas Shooter Had Help, Sheriff Says
HuffPost Nick Visser,HuffPost Wed, Oct 4 9:42 PM CDT yahoo.com
“..Stephen Paddock, the 64-year-old retiree who sprayed bullets onto tens of thousands of Las Vegas concertgoers, probably wasn’t able to pull off the shooting on his own, police said Wednesday.

Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo told reporters during an evening news conference that he believed Paddock, who he referred to as “disturbed and dangerous,” likely received some form of assistance. Nearly 60 people were killed in the attack and almost 500 were injured.

“Do you think this was all accomplished on his own?” the sheriff asked, referencing the stockpiles of weapons and ammunition that Paddock acquired over decades. “You’ve got to make the assumption he had to have some help at some point.”

Police found 50 pounds of an explosive shooting target called Tannerite, as well as 1,600 rounds of ammunition in Paddock’s car parked outside the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.

“It remained in the car for some reason,” Lombardo said of the material.

There were “well in excess of thousands of rounds still present in the room” when Paddock was found dead from a self-inflicted gunshot, Lombardo said. Additional guns and several pounds of Tannerite were found in Paddock’s home in Mesquite.

Authorities deemed Marilou Danley, Paddock’s girlfriend, a “person of interest” in the investigation. They interviewed her shortly after she arrived in Los Angeles from the Philippines on Wednesday, but the FBI said she wasn’t taken into federal custody.

Danley said in a statement that she was “devastated” by the attack, and had no indication Paddock had any plans to carry it out.

“He never said anything to..”

Witness

Las Vegas shooting witness describes chaotic scene

“we have active shooters,

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/entertainment/jason-aldean/index.html

Watch The Moment Jason Aldean Stopped Performing During The Las .

23ABC’s Leah Freeman was at the concert in Vegas during the mass shooting

Stephen C. Paddock Does NOT Have a Facebook Profile

-Firecrackers ??

-Multiple Shooters

Gio Rios – Las Vegas Eyewitness Report of Multiple Shooters at the Tropicana and NyNy
https://youtu.be/ltgVTVtz4NM
Anon Ehmus
“..Published on Oct 15, 2017

Related Blog Article:
http://redpillinfowar.com/2017/10/10/…

Here is yet even more concrete evidence that there were multiple shooters at multiple venues in the Las Vegas 91 Harvest festival psyop shooting event.

It would also seem that there is more proof here that people did die and get injured. Remember People can still die in False Flag and Psyop events,.

The main idea behind a false flag is to cause fear and casualties, sometimes even death, and then BLAME IT ON A FAKE ENEMY. All this to justify some gross indignation or radical agenda in the name of Peace and Safety.

The scumbags in charge do not care about human life. It is of no value nor consequence to them. The people that died during this event were a blood sacrifice for the demons in charge.
..”

Las Vegas Eyewitness Posted Details on Facebook: Found Dead
https://youtu.be/VwBxNmuzfxU
Headlines With A Voice
“Published on Oct 13, 2017

Las Vegas shooting eyewitness turns up dead days after posting her highly detailed account of the massacre on Facebook claiming ‘100% more than one’ shooter
A woman by the name Kymberley Suchomel, 28, who attended the Oct. 1 Route 91 Harvest Music Festival, passed away Monday at her Apple Valley home just days after she had survived the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history unscathed, reports say. …

Suchomel’s full post: https://www.facebook.com/kymberleyjo/…

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-taxi cab

Las Vegas Shooting (did anyone notice this?)

ACTION

-Praying

Dr. Kent Hovind 10-5-17 Gen 18 Las Vegas false flag shooting

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Neutral Perspective: Interracial marriage is wrong or right?

WRONG

-African Perspective

The Bible Says Interracial Marriage Is a Sin!


“Published on Jun 17, 2014

Marrying outside of your race is wickedness according to the bible. For more information, please visit http://fwisrael.org/”

WHAT the BIBLE Say about Interracial Marriage? It is a SIN: GOD Forbids


“Published on Mar 5, 2016

Isaiah 13:14-16 (KJV)
14 And it(Whiteman) shall be as the chased roe, and as a sheep that no man taketh up: they shall every man turn to his own people, and flee every one into his own land.
15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined(Married) unto them shall fall by the sword.
16 Their children(Whiteman) also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.”

RIGHT

-Biblical

What does the Bible Say About Interracial Marriages bibleinfo.com

What Does the Bible Say About Interracial Marriage?


“Published on Dec 30, 2013

A biblical perspective about Interracial couples and Interracial dating.”

“Interracial Marriage” Baptist Preaching (independent, fundamental, KJV sermon)


“Published on Sep 22, 2014

http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/pa… Here is the link to make an online donation to Faithful Word Baptist Church: http://www.truebornsons.com/donate-to…”

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Neutral Perspective: Dinosaurs Lived “Many” or “NOT that many” years ago?

“MANY”

(millions, billions, or trillions)

AMERICAS

-NORTH

->Canada

Researchers found a dinosaur that still has its skin and guts
Mike Wehner,BGR News Mon, May 15 6:01 PM PDT yahoo.com
“…The fossil is that of a nodosaur, a type of herbivorous dinosaur that lived between 110 million and 112 million years ago. Despite being a plant eater, it was an absolutely monstrous beast, measuring 18 feet long, with heavy armor plating and spiked scales stretching from head to toe…”

NOT that Many

(recently compared to the one above)

http://www.answersingenesis.org/store/product/great-dinosaur-mystery-solved/?sku=10-2-092

Ken Ham explains how to understand earth’s history … from a biblical perspective. He then applies this biblical foundation to the intriguing topic of dinosaurs!

more..
http://bible.goodnewseverybody.com/

The Dinosaur Mystery Solved-John Morris part 1

Forget Extinct: The Brontosaurus Never Even Existed
by NPR Staff
December 09, 2012 4:26 PM
http://www.npr.org/2012/12/09/166665795/forget-extinct-the-brontosaurus-never-even-existed

“…It was in the heat of this competition, in 1877, that Marsh discovered the partial skeleton of a long-necked, long-tailed, leaf-eating dinosaur he dubbed Apatosaurus. It was missing a skull, so in 1883 when Marsh published a reconstruction of his Apatosaurus, Lamanna says he used the head of another dinosaur — thought to be a Camarasaurus — to complete the skeleton…”

The Dinosaur Mystery Solved-John Morris part 2

http://www.truthinscience.org.uk/tis2/index.php/component/content/article/48.html

“…The fossil record is the cause of ongoing debate between evolutionists. On one side geneticists and theoreticians stand for Darwinian “gradualism.” They continue to claim that the lack of intermediate forms is due to the rarity of fossilisation and the imperfection of the fossil record. Thus, the fossil record is something which needs to be explained away – it is not good evidence for Darwinian evolution…”

The Dinosaur Mystery Solved-John Morris part 4

You Don’t “Fit” Dinosaurs with the Bible!
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2000/04/14/dont-fit-dinosaurs

“…Also, there is a lot of evidence (such as carvings and paintings of dinosaur-like creatures)—and (unfossilized) dinosaur bone with red blood cells—that makes sense in the light of the biblical account of history. Did you know that a dinosaur may be described in detail in the Bible? Check out Job 40:15–19. And if the notes in your Bible state that this animal was an elephant or hippo, read the passage again to see that this can’t be so.

Did you know the word “dinosaur” was first invented in 1841? Dinosaurs were probably called “dragons” before that time. And the Hebrew word for “dragon” is used a number of times in the Old Testament. There are also dragon legends prevalent in cultures around the world. It’s possible these are accounts of encounters with beasts we today call dinosaurs.
..”

more..http://carm.org/did-men-and-dinosaurs-live-together

Were dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark?
http://creation.com/were-dinosaurs-on-noahs-ark

The Dinosaur Mystery Solved-John Morris part 5

http://www.genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/scriptural/

The Dinosaur Mystery Solved-John Morris part 5
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1907779/

more…

What really happened to the Dinosaurs-Ken Ham part 1 of 6

Is the Loch Ness monster real? Can dinosaurs live today? — Libby Grubby, age 8, Greenwood, IN
http://www.discoverymagazine.com/digger/d98dd/d9808dd.html

http://www.bible.ca/tracks/taylor-trail.htm

http://www.creationtoday.org/is-there-evidence-of-dinosaurs-and-man-living-at-the-same-time/?doing_wp_cron=1375676415.9161889553070068359375

Have blood cells ever been found in dinosaur fossils?
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c026.html

“…. The Montana team did find, along with DNA from fungi, insects and bacteria, unidentifiable DNA sequences, but could not say that these could not have been jumbled sequences from present-day organisms. However, the same problem would not be there for hemoglobin, the protein which makes blood red and carries oxygen, so they looked for this substance in the fossil bone. …”

http://salphotobiz.smugmug.com/Other/Dinosaurs

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Diver’s sea creature find is ‘discovery of a lifetime’
Jasmine Santana finds 18-foot oarfish carcass at Catalina Island; bizarre-looking denizens are rarely seen and once spawned tales of sea serpents

October 15, 2013 by Pete Thomas

http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/nature/post/divers-sea-creature-find-is-discovery-of-a-lifetime/

“…They’re believed responsible, in the times of ancient mariners, for spawning tales of sea serpents and dragons that would rise like demons to steal crewmen and sink tall ships.

They’re rarely encountered but sometimes when they die or are near-death, they surface and wash ashore.

Only a handful of live specimens have been found. Interestingly, Catalina was the site of at least one such discovery.

In 2006, a 15-foot oarfish was spotted in the island’s Big Fisherman’s Cove. Harbormaster Doug Oudin snorkeled alongside the docile creature before it eventually perished. It was collected for study.

Last year at the Baja California resort city of Cabo San Lucas, a 15-foot barely-live oarfish washed ashore on a popular beach. It also died soon after its discovery.

The modern discovery of oarfish may date to 1808, when a 56-foot serpent-like creature washed ashore in Scotland.

In 1901, a 22-foot oarfish drifted onto the sand in Newport Beach, California, becoming, according to one reference book, “the basis for many sea-serpent stories told by local bar patrons for more than a decade after its discovery.”..”

Dragon found in Spain 08/22/2013

Rare Dragon/Shark Found In Japan

?
Japan Earthquake : Unknown Creature Caught On Aerial Footage !

AFRICA

-Congo

The Last Dinosaur of the Congo

“…Sources as reputable as Scientific American and the BBC believe that there may still be dinosaurs in the most remote jungles of the Congo. We sent some amateur cryptozoologists out there to look for the creature the local pygmies call Mokele-mbembe, or “he who stops the flow of rivers.” What they ended up experiencing in the Heart of Darkness has to be seen to be believed. …”

Dinosaur of the Congo

“…This is my long overdue video of the the Mokele-Mbembe! Soon, I will begin working on a huge project that will include ancient and modern day dragons.
…”

-Movies
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The Dinosaur Project Trailer

AMERICAS

-Canada

Hadrosaur skin found by David Catchpoole
Published: 23 July 2013 (GMT+10) creation.com
“..The discovery of hadrosaur (duck-billed dinosaur) skin near Grande Prairie, Alberta, Canada, is a classic example. University of Regina researcher Mauricio Barbi recounts: “As we excavated the fossil, I thought we were looking at a skin impression. Then I noticed a piece came off and I realized this is not ordinary—this is real skin. Everyone involved with the excavation was incredibly excited ….”2

Their excitement is understandable. Everybody is taught that dinosaurs became extinct millions of years ago yet here is a piece of real skin. No wonder they didn’t expect to find it, and initially thought it must have been only a skin impression. The basic question arising from the discovery ought now to have been, “Why is it that we’ve been taught these fossils are millions of years old, when here quite plainly is evidence to the contrary?”

Instead, Mauricio Barbi and colleagues are trying to answer their question: “how the fossil remained intact for around 70 million years.” ..”

-Mexico

“Dinosaur Figurines Found in Mexico, Page 1”
http://discoverynews.us/DISCOVERY%20MUSEUM/DinosaurWorld/DinoFigurines/Dinosaur_Figurines_of_Mexico.html

Feel free to share any other sources to support any of the two arguments above..

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Movie Reflection: “Beauty and the Beast”

Beauty and the Beast (2017) imdb.com
“.. An adaptation of the Disney fairy tale about a monstrous-looking prince and a young woman who fall in love.
Director: Bill Condon
Writers: Stephen Chbosky (screenplay), Evan Spiliotopoulos (screenplay)
Stars: Emma Watson, Dan Stevens, Luke Evans |..”

Beauty and the Beast – US Official Final Trailer


“Published on Jan 30, 2017

The final trailer for Beauty and the Beast is here 🌹 On March 17, rediscover a tale as old as time. Get your tickets now at BeOurGuest.com


Disney’s “Beauty and the Beast” is a live-action re-telling of the studio’s animated classic which refashions the classic characters from the tale as old as time for a contemporary audience, staying true to the original music while updating the score with several new songs. “Beauty and the Beast” is the fantastic journey of Belle, a bright, beautiful and independent young woman who is taken prisoner by a beast in his castle. Despite her fears, she befriends the castle’s enchanted staff and learns to look beyond the Beast’s hideous exterior and realize the kind heart and soul of the true Prince within. The film stars: Emma Watson as Belle; Dan Stevens as the Beast; Luke Evans as Gaston, the handsome, but shallow villager who woos Belle; Oscar® winner Kevin Kline as Maurice, Belle’s eccentric, but lovable father; Josh Gad as Lefou, Gaston’s long-suffering aide-de-camp; Golden Globe® nominee Ewan McGregor as Lumiere, the candelabra; Oscar nominee Stanley Tucci as Maestro Cadenza, the harpsichord; Oscar nominee Ian McKellen as Cogsworth, the mantel clock; and two-time Academy Award® winner Emma Thompson as the teapot, Mrs. Potts.”

Reviews:

Beauty and the Beast (2017) rottentomatoes.com
3.20.17 –“70%
Average Rating: 6.7/10
Reviews Counted: 212
Fresh: 148
Rotten: 64

Critics Consensus: With an enchanting cast, beautifully crafted songs, and a painterly eye for detail, Beauty and the Beast offers a faithful yet fresh retelling that honors its beloved source material.

Why Some Parents Say Christians Should Watch Disney’s Beauty and the Beast 03-19-2017 www1.cbn.com
“..When Disney announced it would feature an “exclusively gay moment” in its new “Beauty and the Beast” remake, Christians everywhere vowed to boycott the movie. Despite the backlash, some Christians say parents should think twice about prohibiting their children from seeing the film.

CBN News caught up with folks who saw the movie opening weekend to find out what they think about the controversy. Click the video above to see what they said.

One of those parents is Sarah Wallace, a blogger for The Gospel Centered Mom, and mother of four. She says the movie gives parents the opportunity to teach their children how to interract with a world that loves sin.

“This is the culture God has appointed for us to raise our children in. We need to know how to live in it and interact with it,” she says. Instead of ignoring a culture that celebrates homosexualtiy, Wallace argues that Christians should send their children out into the world with strong knowledge of what the Bible says. ..”
*see Homosexual Acts a Sin? Judge Not! goodnewseverybodycom.wordpress.com

Sal: I’ve seen various versions of this story, but somehow this particular movie inspired me to write about this one. One major reason was the character…

Hattie Morahan as Agathe /en.wikipedia.org
“..– a reclusive, old woman who lives in Villeneuve who, in reality, is a beautiful enchantress in disguise responsible for cursing the Prince. She watches and manipulates the events between Belle and the Prince, secretly acting as their guardian.[18]

Morahan also narrates the prologue…”

I saw her as the “guardian” angel and a particular symbol in the Bible of someone we “humans” need to watch for in life. Can’t let looks disguise you as the theme of this movie pretty much teaches..

Others:

SPOILER ALERT!!!

What’s Up With Agathe In ‘Beauty And The Beast’? She’s A Complicated Character, To Say The Least By Olivia Truffaut-Wong bustle.com
“..Just a nameless and vindictive creature in the animated film, the Enchantress depicted in the new Beauty and the Beast, as played by Hattie Morahan, has a life beyond just cursing a spoiled Prince who refused to give her shelter. Named Agathe, the Enchantress appears in the prologue scene to curse the Beast, but she also pops up throughout the film as a villager. Agathe makes her debut in the film as the provincial town’s local old maid. She is an unmarried woman left begging on the streets, used by Gaston as a cautionary tale after Belle tells him she doesn’t want to go out with him. Pointing to Agathe, Gaston warns Belle that, in this town, an unmarried woman is destined to end up on the street…

Perphas the most significant change to the story in the live action Beauty and the Beast is the presence of Agathe at the end of the film. In the movie, the last rose petal has already fallen when Belle tells the Beast that she loves him. Belle didn’t break the curse at all, Agathe did. When the townspeople rush the castle, she enters with them, slipping in among the angry mob and making her way up to the West Wing of the castle. After witnessing Belle’s declaration, Agathe makes the conscious decision to lift the curse. In other words, she plays an active role in creating their Happily Ever After. Ultimately, the power to break the curse is in her hands and hers alone. She’s not just a random witch, she’s a woman with agency….”
*see Deep Thought: What “causes” us to do “bad” (sin) stuff? goodnewseverybodycom.wordpress.com
on breaking that “generational curse”

What other “life lessons” or any personal thoughts or reflections you got from this movie or any of the Beauty and the Beast versions?

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Music

(Music: Karaoke-“Tale as Old as Time” (Beauty & the Beast) from Crazy lil’ Sal creativemusicartsy.wordpress.com)

Beauty and the Beast (2017 soundtrack) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia wikipedia.org
“…Condon originally planned on not only drawing inspiration from the original film, but he also planned to include most, if not all, of the songs composed by Alan Menken, Howard Ashman and Tim Rice from the Broadway musical, with the intention of making the film as a “straight-forward, live-action, large-budget movie musical”. Menken returned to score the film’s music, which features songs from the original film by him and Ashman, plus new material written by Menken and Rice. Menken said the film would not include songs that were written for the Broadway musical and instead, created four new songs. On January 19, 2017, it was confirmed by both Disney and Celine Dion, singer of the original title track, that she will perform one of the new original songs, “How Does a Moment Last Forever”, to play over the end titles.[1][4] The film will also feature a new version of “Beauty and the Beast” by Ariana Grande and John Legend.[1][5] Some songs contained Ashman’s unused lyrics that were cut from the animated version…”
Beauty and the Beast (From “Beauty and the Beast”/Official Video)

Music: Karaoke-“Be our guest” (Beauty & the Beast) by Crazy lil’ Sal creativemusicartsy.wordpress.com

Theatrical

Miscellaneous

10 MOVIE MISTAKES Fixed By Beauty And The Beast (2017)

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Deep Thought: Are all “sins” equal?

Are all sins equal to God? Is all sin the same? gotquestions.org
“..So, although Jesus said that lust and adultery are both sins, that does not mean they are equal. It is much worse to actually murder a person than it is to simply hate a person, even though they are both sins in God’s sight. There are degrees to sin. Some sins are worse than others. At the same time, in regard to both eternal consequences and salvation, all sins are the same. Every sin will lead to eternal condemnation (Romans 6:23). All sin, no matter how “small,” is against an infinite and eternal God, and is therefore worthy of an infinite and eternal penalty. Further, there is no sin too “big” that God cannot forgive it. Jesus died to pay the penalty for sin (1 John 2:2). Jesus died for all of our sins (2 Corinthians 5:21). Are all sins equal to God? Yes and no. In severity? No. In penalty? Yes. In forgivability? Yes.
..”

All Sins Are Not Equal J.I. Packer/ DECEMBER 28, 2004 christianitytoday.com
“..Scripture shows that in God’s estimate some sins are worse and bring greater guilt than others, and that some sins do us more damage. Moses rates the golden calf debacle a great sin (Ex. 32:30)….

… Ezekiel in his horrific allegory says that after Oholah (Samaria) had ruined herself by unfaithfulness to God, Oholibah (Jerusalem) “became more corrupt … in her lust and in her whoring, which was worse than that of her sister” (Ezek. 23:11, ESV). John distinguishes sins that do and do not inevitably lead to death (1 John 5:16), picking up Jesus’ warning about the unforgivable sin (Mk. 3:28-30).

..”

43 Are all Sins the Same ?
, from youtube.com

Are All Sins Equal Before God?
, from youtube.com
“Consequences matter when it comes to weighing sin.
http://desiringGod.org”

Unforgiveable sin?

What is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? bibleinfo.com
“…Is there a sin that cannot be forgiven?
Yes, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, is any sin that a person clings to by continually resisting the convicting power of the Holy Spirit. Keep in mind that there is not one specific sin that is unforgivable, such as lying, stealing or murder, but rather a perpetual hardening of the heart and willfully sinning against God and man (1 Timothy 4:2; Titus 1:15). In Acts 7:51, Stephen says the following to the Pharisees, “You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you.” In a nutshell the unpardonable sin is any sin that a person doesn’t want to give up, confess, or even ask forgiveness for and additionally doesn’t want to hear any more about it from the Holy Spirit…”

“7 Deadly sins”

What Are The Seven Deadly Sins allaboutgod.com
QUESTION: What are the seven deadly sins?

ANSWER:
What are the seven deadly sins? gotquestions.org
Bible Study: Defining The Seven Deadly Sins
, from youtube.com

Lead to “death”?

What is the sin that leads to death, or the sin unto death, that John talks about? compellingtruth.org
“..Many interpretations exist regarding this “sin that leads to death.” Unfortunately, the text is not clear what this “sin” is. It does appear clear John wrote to believers and was speaking of physical death. For example, Ananias and Sapphira experienced physical death for their sin (Acts 5). In 1 Corinthians 11:30, Paul wrote concerning wrongful practice of the Lord’s Supper, “That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.”
..”

There is Sin that Leads to Death

1 John 5:14-21

by Cooper Abrams bible-truth.org
“…c. The unpardonable sin is in context a part of the dispensation of the Law. It is a specific sin of blasphemy, in which a person would credit the devil for the work of the Holy Spirit. The special circumstances involved in blasphemy can not be duplicated today. The Scribes and Pharisees committed this sin in attributing the work of Jesus to the Devil. (see Matthew 12:24, Mark 3:22, Luke 11:15)

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People KILLED by God – The Bible Study Site biblestudy.org

“..Ananias and his wife Sapphira were New Testament believers. After selling some land, they decided to give the church PART of the proceeds but make it seem that they were donating the entire amount of the sale. The apostle Peter, however, saw through their mutually agreed ruse. After confronting each one separately regarding their sin, they both immediately died (Acts 5:1 – 10).

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Learned anything new? Thoughts, feedback, questions, prayer requests, etc..?

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Neutral Perspective: To “swear” or “NOT” to swear?

Do you “swear” ? Be honest!?? I think we sometimes don’t know what we say are actually “swear” words. Here are some sites that have a list of them:

List of Swear Words & Curse Words – Starting With A noswearing.com
Hyperhero’s list of swearwords, hyperhero.com

Origins

Why Do We Swear?


“Published on Nov 26, 2016

There are certain words I just can’t write in this sentence. Profanity. Swear words. But… why? Benjamin Bergen explains the science of swearing.

Thanks For Listening.

profane merriam-webster.com

verb pro·fane \prō-ˈfān, prə-\
Popularity: Top 20% of words
Examples: profane in a sentence

Definition of profane
profaned; profaning

transitive verb

1
: to treat (something sacred) with abuse, irreverence, or contempt : desecrate

2
: to debase by a wrong, unworthy, or vulgar use..

In front of “kids”?

It’s Okay To Swear Around Your Kids, Says Science scarymommy.com
“Like it or not, when you become a parent, you become a role model. And in order to be the best example for your kids, you’re often forced to change your behavior. It’s not always easy, but a new book from a professor of cognitive science is here to ease your load. Because according to him, it’s okay to swear around your kids. F___ yes!…”

N’ Word

Leonardo DiCaprio was uncomfortable with cruel Django Unchained character 17/12/2012 newshub.co.nz
“..He says, “It was this incredibly interesting horrific character. I mean, there was absolutely nothing about this man I could identify with. I hated him and it was one of the most narcissistic, racist characters I’ve ever read in my entire life.”

DiCaprio reveals he almost chose to soften his character – but was persuaded to stick to his tough approach by Foxx and Jackson, who both play slaves, because there really were slave masters like that throughout American history.

He continues, “One of the pivotal moments for me was this initial read through, I wondered if it needed to be this violent and this atrocious to other human beings and it was Sam and Jamie who said, ‘If you sugarcoat this people are gonna resent the hell out of you. You got to push this guy to the outer extreme.’ That is what ignited me into going the way I did into the character. Once I read about the sugar plantations (in history), we’re just scratching the surface of what happened in this country.”

DiCaprio was also hesitant about using the ‘N’ word repeatedly, as dictated by Tarantino’s script, but Jackson let him know none of his black co-stars were offended by the racially derogative term because it was the language of that time.

Foxx explains, “At one point he (DiCaprio) was feeling it was tough saying his lines, ‘nigga, nigga’ and Samuel pulled him aside and says, ‘Hey motherf**ker, this is another Tuesday for us. Let’s go!’ They were really trying to go back to that time.”..”

Politics

Donald Trump Swearing ***Graphic Language*** , from youtube.com
Unpresidential Profanity: The Reason Trump Doesn’t Give a Damn<
Posted to Politics February 08, 2016 by David Eldridge insidesources.com
“..Even Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly, who calls Trump a friend, said the blue language is inappropriate: “Advice to Trump: Using profanity on campaign trail is not presidential. Most use it, including me, but we are not running for [president],” O’Reilly tweeted Friday.

But linguists who study the way Americans curse say that in a culture more saturated than ever with blunt language — from Martin Scorcese films to HBO series to pop music lyrics and uncensored tweets — Trump isn’t breaking new ground. He’s simply reflecting a new norm.

Jesse Sheidlower, author of “The F Word,” said cultural definitions of what is or is not taboo shift — sometimes dramatically — over time…”

Stats

People who swear a lot are more likely to be honest, study finds – Mirror mirror.co.uk

Debate?

Episode 002 Swearing


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Swearing on YouTube: Should You Cut the Profanity?


“Published on Dec 11, 2014

While you may curse, use swear words, and say all sorts of profanity with your friends, should you use it in your YouTube videos? There’s certainly benefits to not swearing in your videos if you’re hoping to have as many opportunities available to you as possible (like brand deals), but some creators may feel like they then have to pretend to be someone they’re not. What do you think? Do you eliminate swearing from your videos or do you keep it in?

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Biblical Perspective

Profanity – A Biblical Assessment by Wayne Jackson christiancourier.com
“..He wonders how it is that one identifies “profanity.” The Bible only warns against the evil use of language in a general way, but it doesn’t specify which words are to be avoided. Is it a cultural question?

This is an excellent item for study. It is true that this issue is not addressed in a solitary, compact biblical context. There are, though, helpful principles in Scripture that assist in clarifying this bewilderment. Think about these points for a moment…”

Sal: I used to swear “a lot” growing-up due to anger issues and the culture. I remember one swear word in Filipino (parents’ native language) as my parents would say it all the time whenever my siblings or I would do something bad. They would get mad if we repeat it..lol! I didn’t realize how bad it was until I went to college after becoming a Christian (see personal testimony) and my “friends” would tell me that I need to cut it! One friend challenged me to put a quarter in the church offering every time I swore. This was a great challenge as a “poor” college student. I slowly decreased my swearing as I realize I didn’t really have enough money anymore! Lol! My profanity/swearing didn’t go right away. I remembered many years ago I was doing a “church” volunteer activity and a lady from church “challenged” me that the words I was using isn’t used in her household. I never realized what I was saying was “profane”, which was opened my eyes more on the “need” to grow out of this. When I catch myself saying anything “negative” overall now, I try to ask God for forgiveness and double the “negative” with a “positive” (e.g. I would sing/say “Praise the Lord”!) I’m getting better each time..thank you God for helping me!

What are your thoughts? Should “we” swear or not? Why? Feel free to share your sources or websites that you might have to support your answer..

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