Neutral Perspective: Support or NOT for a Palestinian “State”?

Palestinians support indigenous Dakota pipeline protests: “We stand with Standing Rock” Ben Norton Friday, Nov 18, 2016 12:05 PM CST salon.com
WATCH: Gazans express solidarity with the NoDAPL Native American-led resistance against the Dakota Access pipeline
“…“Like you, we don’t control our natural resources,” Suliman continued in her letter. “Just as you were not consulted about the Dakota Access Pipeline that will traverse your land and contaminate your water supply if installed, we are not consulted by Israel, which wants to mine the gas supply in our harbor for its own use and monopolizes the water supply in the West Bank for the green lawns of its own residents — leaving Palestinians parched and dry.”..”

History

Origin of the Name Palestine palestinefacts.org
Where did the name Palestine come from?
The name Palestine is given to the region spreading from eastern Mediterranean coast to the Jordan Valley to the area covering Galilee Lake in the north and southern Negev Desert. The origin of this word lies in Pleshethâ€. This is a name appearing frequently in the Bible and have started being known as Philistine in English. The world root of Pleshethâ lies in the word palahâ was is a term used generally in the sense of migratory, referring to the Palestinian’s conquest of the coast of Mediterranean. These people were mostly originates of Asia Minor and Greece and gradually became a part of the Arab world…”

In AD 135, the Emperor Hadrian blotted out the name Provincia Judea and renamed it Provincia Syria Palaestina. This was the Latin version of the Greek name and soon became a name to be used as an administrative unit. This name was shortened to Palaestina and the name Palestine was derived from it as a modern and anglicized version. No changes occurred to this name until after the fourth century had passed when Palestine was divided in to three regions, following the imperial reorganization. The name Palestine was used by the Christian Crusades to regard all three of the divided regions in general and continued to be used for the regions on both sides of the Jordan River in general. Palestine went under the rule of the Ottoman Turks for 400 years where its administration was attached to Damascus. After the fall of the Ottoman Empire in World War I, the name Palestine was revived and was applied to the land falling under the British Mandate for Palestine. Arabs use the name Falastinâ for Palestine which is an Arab pronunciation of the Roman word Palaestina. ..

The Deception of The Nations youtube.com
*start at 20:50
*see Deep Thought: Who to “blame” for the world’s corruption? goodnewseverybodycom.wordpress.com

Zuheir Mohsen en.wikiquote.org
“..The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.
James Dorsey, “Wij zijn alleen Palestijn om politieke reden”, Trouw, 31 March 1977…”

SUPPORT

Americas

In U.N. Speech, Noam Chomsky Blasts United States for Supporting Israel, Blocking Palestinian State


“Published on Oct 22, 2014

http://democracynow.org – As U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon announces plans to set up an investigation into the attacks on United Nations facilities during Israel’s recent assault on the Gaza Strip, we broadcast the speech of world-renowned political dissident Noam Chomsky, who recently spoke in the hall of the U.N. General Assembly at an event sponsored by the United Nations Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People. “The pattern that was set in January 1976 continues to the present,” said Chomsky, Institute Professor Emeritus at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “Israel rejects a settlement of these terms and for many years has been devoting extensive resources to ensuring it will not be implemented with the unremitting and decisive support of the United States — military, economic, diplomatic and ideological.”

Watch the full 50-minute discussion with Noam Chomsky at the United Nations aired on Democracy Now!: http://www.democracynow.org/appearanc…

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Europe

Five Reasons to Recognise a Palestinian State ecfr.eu
“… Consistency

Recognition of a Palestinian state is consistent with the EU’s long-standing support for achieving a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and builds on both its landmark 1980 Venice Declaration and subsequent 1999 Berlin statement, which announced the EU’s “readiness to consider the recognition of a Palestinian State”.
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Religions

-Christianity

->Catholic
Why The Vatican’s Recognition Of A Palestinian State Comes As No Great Surprise 05/13/2015 11:28 pm ET | Updated May 14, 2015 huffingtonpost.com
“..
Three years ago, Vatican officials applauded the U.N.’s move, which gave Palestine the same status as the Vatican before the international organization. In the years since, the Holy See has listed Palestine as a state in its official yearbook, and Pope Francis referred to the Palestinian state during his 2014 visit to the West Bank.

But even before U.N. recognition, the Vatican supported the creation of a Palestinian nation.
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OIC asks world to support creation of Palestinian state , from youtube.com

->Jewish background

Why Palestinian Davids will defeat the Zionist Goliath By Kevin Barrett on November 1, 2015 veteranstoday.com
“..The current outbreak of what looks to become the Third Intifada is rooted in the belligerent, uncompromising, expansionist and genocidal policies of the state of Israel, which have continued regardless of what the Palestinians do. We’ve seen the Israelis “mowing the lawn in Gaza” every few years, killing thousands of innocent civilians. We see ongoing brutalization of the Palestinian population that is clearly designed to make life unlivable for the Palestinians. And this amounts to genocide, as professor Lawrence Davidson of West Chester University has said. He is from a Jewish background himself. And he is far from the only person from a Jewish background who recognizes that the current policies of the Israeli government amount to genocide. So given that there has been absolutely no progress on the political front, and given that the Zionist leadership is under the domination of a certified psychopath, Benjamin Netanyahu, one of the principle authors of the September 11th Zionist coup d’état in the United States, it is clear that the only way the Palestinians have any hope of maintaining their struggle over the long term, which is what is required, is to admit that negotiations currently are not possible – and to opt for military resistance…

The cost of the Zionist occupation of Palestine is getting higher and higher. Here in the United States, more and more Americans are waking up and realizing that since the coup of September 11th, which about one-third of Americans realize was an inside job, the United States has spent trillions of dollars – as much as four or five trillion dollars according to some counts – in wars designed to destabilize Israel’s enemies, and to ultimately work for the interests of Israel, not the United States. So the costs of the Zionist project have reached a ridiculous level. The economy of the United States has been crippled by the 9/11 wars for Israel. This (asymmetry) is perhaps the most important dimension of the asymmetric struggle between the Palestinians and the Zionists. The Zionists have to spend millions of millions of dollars to try to defend against what the Palestinians can do with a two dollar knife or a ten dollar per month internet connection.”
*see Deep Thought: Who to “blame” for the world’s corruption? goodnewseverybodycom.wordpress.com

No Longer David: The State of Israel As Goliath al-monitor.com

NEUTRAL

Wars

-November 2018

=>Palestinian Perspective

Israel blows up Gaza ceasefire Ali Abunimah Rights and Accountability 13 November 2018 electronicintifada.net
“..Israel carried out air raids across Gaza on Monday night with Palestinian resistance factions firing some 300 rockets into Israel in retaliation for an Israeli raid Sunday that killed seven members of the Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas…

It remained to be seen if Israel’s security cabinet, which was due to meet Tuesday, would agree to return to the ceasefire that Israel violated.”

‘Everything is a target’: Gaza residents decry Israeli strikes
by Farah Najjar & Maram Humaid
7 hours ago aljazeera.com
“..On Tuesday, the armed wing of Hamas, the group that administers the Gaza Strip, warned it would increase attacks and fire rockets at the Israeli towns of Ashdod and Beersheba if Israel continues to carry out air raids on civilian buildings.

The statement by al-Qassam Brigades was released hours after a rocket from Gaza killed an Israeli man in the coastal town of Ashkelon.

At least seven Palestinians have been killed in Israeli attacks since late on Monday, in the worst flare-up of violence between the two sides since the 2014 Israeli assault on the Strip.

The escalation came after at least seven other Palestinians were killed on Sunday in a covert Israeli operation, to which Hamas responded with rocket fire from Gaza. One Israeli soldier was also killed in the undercover raid near Khan Younis…”

=>Israel Perspective

IDF strikes 160 targets in Gaza Strip after almost 500 rockets fired By Anna Ahronheim
November 13, 2018 19:42 jpost.com
“..Since Sunday night, Palestinian terrorist groups have fired more than 460 rockets and mortars into Israel.

The IDF said it struck more than 160 Hamas and Islamic Jihad terror targets in the Strip, including tunnels, four military compounds in Gaza City, Beit Hanun, Jabalya and Khan Yunis, as well as a Hamas launch site in Khan Yunis and four multi-story buildings…”

ANALYSIS: Israel Readies for Third Gaza War Tuesday, November 13, 2018 | Yochanan Visser .israeltoday.co.il
“..The dramatic announcement, a clear sign Israel is preparing for another war against Hamas and the other Palestinian terror groups in Gaza, came after more than 400 rockets rained down on southern Israel since Monday afternoon.

Magen David Adom, the Israeli first aid organization and ambulance service, said 27 Israelis were injured by the massive missile attacks from Gaza while one resident of the coastal city of Ashkelon was killed by a direct hit on his house Monday night…

The victim appeared to be a Palestinian Arab, 48, from the Hebron area who was only found dead hours after police and the fire brigade arrived at the scene of the devastating blast which destroyed an entire building.

The lead up to what could be the third Gaza war began this weekend when a Palestinian terrorist from Gaza infiltrated an Israeli community in the vicinity of the security fence and set ablaze a greenhouse before being arrested by Israeli security forces.

The incident was followed by a shoot-out between an elite undercover unit of the IDF and members of Hamas’ military wing Izz-a-Din al-Qassam in the area of the Palestinian town of Khan Younis in Gaza on Sunday night.

The secret intelligence-gathering operation went awry when members of Izz-a-Din al-Qassam spotted the IDF unit and tried to stop the private car they were traveling with.

In the ensuing shoot-out, 7 Hamas terrorists were killed, among them Nour Barakeh, a Qassam Brigade commander who reportedly was in charge with Hamas’ terror tunnel project and served as the commander of Hamas’ regional battalion in Khan Younis..

The Israeli PM, who on Sunday said he would do his utmost to prevent a humanitarian disaster in Gaza and allowed Qatar to deliver $15 million in cash to the impoverished enclave, immediately started consultations with the top of the IDF after arriving in Israel.

Hamas, meanwhile, used the funeral of the 7 slain terrorists to ignite the Palestinian street and organized a mass demonstration against “the occupation”.”

-War: November 5th 2008

=>Israel Started it!

Who Broke The Cease Fire – Hamas or Israel 2008

wotdoesitmatter
Published on Jan 10, 2009
A nice little news item where Mark Regev admits Hamas didn’t fire any rockets before Israel broke the cease fire in November.

more…
On November 5, the Guardian reported:

A four-month ceasefire between Israel and Palestinian militants in Gaza was in jeopardy today after Israeli troops killed six Hamas gunmen in a raid into the territory.

“Hamas responded by firing a wave of rockets into southern Israel, although no one was injured. The violence represented the most serious break in a ceasefire agreed in mid-June, yet both sides suggested they wanted to return to atmosphere of calm. (Rory McCarthy, Gaza truce broken as Israeli raid kills six Hamas gunmen, The Guardian, November 5, 2008; http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/…

The Guardian added:

Until now it had appeared both Israel and Hamas, which seized full control of Gaza last summer, had an interest in maintaining the ceasefire.

CNN Confirms Israel Broke Ceasefire First

-2006

Burning Conscience: Israeli Soldiers Speak Out

*see Peacemaking: Various Ways Between Arabs and Jews goodnewseverybodycom.wordpress.com

NOT SUPPORT

An open letter to those who support a Palestinian state World anti-Semitism
By HOWARD KLINEBERG \ 09/24/2015 19:40 jpost.com
“…Now as you proceed on your chosen path towards your goal I had some questions regarding this future ‘Palestine state’.

What will it be like to live in?
Will it be democratic?
How will it treat religions other than Muslim?
What will its attitude be towards Israel?
How will it treat gays, lesbians and cross genders?
Will it allow building of places of worship that are not Mosques?
What will its policy be towards refugees?
Will it have a free press?
Which of its Arab ‘brother’ states will it model itself on?
Who will be its allies?
With whom will it trade?
What will it trade?

A result of all the research I have conducted, from everything I have read and all that I understand to be spoken by President Abbas and from Khaled Mashal this state will probably not be the nicest of places to live in. Additionally, from current evidence it certainly won’t be democratic as both the PA and Hamas are currently well past their constitutional sell by dates. Furthermore the PA have declared that their state will be a no-go area for Jews and that they will never recognize Israel as the Jewish homeland.
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Why Palestinians Want This Video Removed


“Jerusalem has been a Jewish holy city since the days of King David . 3000 years ago.
At that time the Arabs were still pagans who used to worship idols such as Al Uzza, Al Lat and Al Mannat at the Kaaba. (Jahiliyya period)

In the year 638 CE the muslims captured Jerusalem from the Byzantines and built a mosque on the site of the Jewish holy Temple.

While Jews pray facing Jerusalem and the Temple mount , Muslims pray towards Mecca.
When Muslims pray in Jerusalem they point their behind to the Dome of the rock and the temple mount.

An Islamic holy site ?
Palestinians use the temple mount as a playground where they have picnics and play soccer.

Sary Nusseibeh , palestinian professor and the president of the Al Quds university had to go underground after admitting that the temple mount is a Jewish holy site.

Ibn Taymiyyah (1263-1328) , whose writings influenced the Wahhabi movement in arabia ruled that sacred islamic sites are to be found only in the Arabian Peninsula and that ” in Jerusalem, there is not a place one calls sacred , and the same holds true for the tombs of Hebron”

Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible 667 times , while in the Quran : 0 times .

According to the quran , the holy land was written by Allah to Israel (quran 5:21) and that the Jews will return to their land (quran 17:104)

The jews are coming back home from the diaspora .

Ezekiel 36:24
“For i will take you from among the nations , gather you out of all countries, and bring you back into your own land”

Jeremiah 29:14
“I will be found by you,” declares the LORD, “and will bring you back from captivity. I will gather you from all the nations and places where I have banished you,” declares the LORD, “and will bring you back to the place from which I carried you into exile.”

Isaia 62:1
“For Zion’s sake I will not keep silent, for Jerusalem’s sake I will not remain quiet, till her righteousness shines out like the dawn, her salvation like a blazing torch.”

Religion

“..I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.”..”Genesis 12

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