This question was asked by my pastor of my local church here and thought this was something to ask you all too…
Feel free to share your thoughts, answers (e.g. one word/sentence or more, etc..), etc.. down below…
A friend and I had “another” deep philosophical conversation the other night. This time, he actually brought a good question, which I really never took the time to ponder about-“What did Jesus do between the ages of 12 and 30?”-which wasn’t recorded in any of the Gospels?
What Was Jesus Doing Before He Began His Ministry? whataboutjesus.com
“… Aside from the account of Jesus’ birth and infancy, there is only one account in the Bible about his boyhood. That’s the time when the 12 year old Jesus was in the temple courts of Jerusalem amazing his teachers with his knowledge of the Scriptures. You can read about it in Luke 2:41-52. The account ends in an interesting way. God tells us that the boy Jesus did not remain in Jerusalem in the temple. Instead he was obedient to his earthly parents and went back with them to his hometown of Nazareth. There in Nazareth, from age 12 to 30, “Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men.”…”
Where was Jesus between the ages of 12 and 30? by Ryan Turner carm.org
“…The best thing that we can say for now is that it was not the first century Gospel writers purpose to talk about the childhood years of Jesus in much detail, so we really do not have much to say about them. I think that we should focus on what we can know about Jesus rather than what we do not know. For ancient historical records, we have a lot of information about Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection. It is there that we should focus since the resurrection is the foundation upon which Christianity is built (1 Corinthians 15:17, cf. John 2:19-21, Matthew 12:39-40).”
Where was Jesus between ages 12 and 30? What was He doing?, from quora.com
“…I think we can surmise from the trajectory his life was taking at age 12 that he continued to be “about his Father’s business” Luke 2:49 “Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?”..
What Did Jesus Do Between Age 12 and 30?, hcna.us
“… But a lack of information in scripture has never stopped scholars from theorizing, especially when there is internal evidence, that is, evidence we can deduce from the literature itself, to support a pet theory. So, here are three theories I have encountered in my studies. ..
Then there is theory number three. This notion doesn’t get much support from orthodoxy, but it has a strong band of supporters. These claim that Jesus went to India or elsewhere in the Near East and studied Buddhism. …”
–Amazing documentary – the missing history of Jesus from youtube.com
“Published on Sep 28, 2012
For more information please visit:
–Where was Jesus for 18 years? Missing in Bible Part 1/2 , from youtube.com
Acharya Shree Yogeesh
The Missing Years
by Bruce A. Ritter rcg.org
“…Some, relying on human reasoning and theory, have invented stories about these “lost” years. One tells of a young Jesus learning the mystic arts in Egypt. Another tale has Him journeying across the Atlantic Ocean to preach to the American Indians, who some believe to be the “lost ten tribes” of Israel. Yet none of these or other manmade tales are supported by the Bible…”
Mysteries of the Bible – The Lost Years of Jesus from youtube.com
“Published on Dec 31, 2012
“The Lost Years of Jesus” looks at the nearly 30-year gap in the Gospels regarding the life of Christ. Included is speculation on whether Jesus may have traveled outside of Palestine during those three decades.
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Tom Nelson: The Hidden Years of Jesus
From age 12 to 30, Jesus spent time in a carpenter shop. What does that mean for us? christianitytoday.com
“From age 12 to 30, Jesus spent time in a carpenter’s shop. What does that mean for us? Tom Nelson highlights the importance of the fact that Jesus spent most of his time on earth working – creating, shaping and fixing with his hands. The magnitude of Jesus’ “hidden years” serves to remind us that work most certainly matters…”
If Jesus started ministry at age 30, what was he doing for 30 years? thisisyourbible.com
“…Mark tells us that Jesus, like Joseph, worked as a carpenter (Mark 6:3). This job was much as it is today, a skilled, but honest and hardworking trade. It would have given Jesus opportunity to meet all kinds of people and travel in Galilee. We know from historical records that when Jesus was in his teens, just starting his trade, the nearby town of Sepphoris underwent a major rebuilding which brought stonemasons and carpenters from all over the Roman empire. As it was less than an hour’s walk to Sepphoris it is almost certain that any young carpenter of Nazareth would also have spent some time working there. Sepphoris was a Greek-speaking town, and Jesus, who probably only spoke Aramaic (a form of Hebrew) at home, would have learned to speak Greek. The rebuilding of Sepphoris would also have provided extra income for his family.”
I’m still doing some research on this topic and this will probably will never end. I would love to welcome any other credible sources out there that might “help” answer this question. Got any personal suggestions, feedback, comments, etc..?
Does the Bible Contradict Itself?, October 3rd, 2012 By Robert A. Ratcliff ministrymatters.com
“..So, does the Bible contradict itself? In one sense, of course it does. The Bible is not one book after all, it is a library of books gathered, compiled, composed, and edited over the course of centuries. That one book or passage should disagree, even substantially, with another is only inevitable.
But in another sense we can say that when the Bible is contradicting itself it is at the same time conversing with itself. One text speaks to another, challenging it, probing it, shedding new light upon it. The internal conversation going on in Scripture creates some of the Bible’s most important messages. If the Bible speaks the word of God (and I believe it does), then it is above all a dynamic word. The truth of Scripture is not static; it is changing, it is growing, and where there is growth there is usually friction….”
Does the Bible Contradict Itself?- How to think about differences in scripture By Preston Sprinkle April 20, 2015 relevantmagazine.com
“Most people answer this question either with an adamant “Yes!” or passionate “No!” Too often, though, both sides fail to understand or represent the other side. Not everyone who says that the Bible contains contradictions is an angry, arrogant, card-carrying atheist. And not everyone who believes there aren’t any contradictions is a backwoods, unscientific, raging fundamentalist with his head in the sand…
What “Contradictions” Look Like
First, it’s important to distinguish between contradiction and difference. Just because two passages are different, doesn’t mean they contradict each other. For example, Matthew 27:5 says that Judas hung himself, while Acts 1:18 says that he fell to the ground and burst wide open. These are two different accounts of Judas’ death, but they are not formal contradictions. A contradiction would be one passages saying, “Judas hung himself and died” and another passage saying, “Judas didn’t hang himself; rather, he threw himself from cliff and splattered on the ground.”..
Answering for the Bible
…For instance, for the longest time critics laughed at the blatant error in Daniel 5:1, where Belshazzar is named king of Babylon. Every historian knew that Nabonidus was the king at this time, not some guy named Balshazzar. That is, until archaeologists discovered an inscription known as the “Persian Verse Account of Nabonidus,” where it says that Nabonidus went away for a long journey during this time and left the kingdom in the hands of—you guessed it—his son Balshazzar. Contradiction solved…
4 Responses to the Problem of Violence in the Bible February 6, 2015 by John Dickson
….4. You must read the narrative through the lens of the New Testament.
“This is the most important response to the problem of Old Testament violence. Christians are forbidden to read Joshua as a justification for modern war, for Jesus said to love your enemies (Matthew 5:44) and turn the other cheek (Matthew 5:39). That doesn’t mean wars are never justified — they can be, on other grounds. My point here is that we cannot achieve God’s kingdom ends through violence.
This is not picking and choosing which bits of the Bible we like and don’t like. It is how Christians have always read the Bible as two testaments. Like a ‘prism’ that causes light to refract into the full spectrum, the life, teaching, death, and resurrection of Jesus transforms many things — including circumcision, food laws, and holy war. For Christians, the only holy war the Bible endorses is the spiritual one Paul mentions in Ephesians 6: the fight against error and sin….”
HAS GOD ALWAYS BEEN LOVING? SUNDAY MAY 21, 2017 • GREG BOYD whchurch.org
“The underlying theme behind our ‘Glimpses of Truth’ series is the idea that before we had the full revelation of God in Jesus, people only caught glimpses of him. He showed himself, but like the sun on a cloudy day, people’s view was obscured by their culture, so what they saw was not the full revelation but one marred by their own expectations and fallenness.
But despite this, there were still a few instances in the Old Testament where we can see glimpses of the Christ-like God that we know..”
Why Does God Kill Innocent People in the Old Testament? – YouTube
THE BEAT by Allen Parr
Published on Jul 18, 2017
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Why does God kill innocent people in the Old Testament but commands us not to do so? In doing so, does this not make God both a murderer and a hypocrite? Why does God kills and order His people to kill entire nations including babies and seemingly innocent people? Why does God kill is one of the questions that atheists will use to suggest that God is not good. This video gives 6 reasons why God kills innocent people in the Old Testament.
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Verses of Violence: Comparing the Bible and Quran
9:30AM EST 12/16/2015 Michael Brown charismanews.com
“…How can anyone compare the two?
Jesus is called the Lamb of God in numerous texts, speaking of His sacrificial death on the cross, and He is worshipped by Christians as the Lamb who was slain. Do Muslims commonly think of Muhammad in those terms?
The issue here is not whether it’s appropriate for Christians to defend themselves against terrorist attacks or whether Christians should serve in the military.
The issue is that the early Christians were killed for their faith rather than killing others for their faith. The early Muslims did, in fact, kill others for their faith, and many have continued to do so through the centuries.
So, when a Christian is killed by a radical Muslim for refusing to deny his faith, both the Christian and the Muslim can point to their leaders—Jesus and Muhammad—and say, “I am following the example of my leader,” one by being killed for his faith, the other by killing for his faith.
I’m quite aware of ugly aspects of Church history, including the violence of the Crusades (in particular, against European Jews who were not part of the military conflict between Christians and Muslims), but examples such as this prove the larger point: They are horrific exceptions to the rule and they are without New Testament support…”
“Islam has been under huge scrutiny lately and is often criticized for being an aggressive religion…
but what about Christianity?
In this video we disguised a Bible as a Quran and read some of it’s most gruesome verses to the people. This is what they had to say.
Flying Hijacked Planes into Glass Houses TheReligionofPeace.com Presents
“…Strategic omission is just one way that Muslim apologists manipulate Biblical passages. (In this case, The American Muslim editors did not even include an ellipsis in place of the omission, since it may have raised the suspicions of the reader).
The next passage that The American Muslim claims promotes violence is from the apostle Paul, who writes:
“Hymenaeus and Alexander I have delivered to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme.” (1Timothy 1:20)
The violence in the passage is not exactly evident from this reading. In the context of the previous verse, these two men “suffered shipwreck with regard to the faith,” but there is nothing to indicate that they were physically harmed as a result. It was the practice of the early Church to excommunicate apostates, and there is every reason to believe that this was the “fate” of these two individuals. They were expelled from the Church by Paul. The Christian Church does not advocate killing apostates.
Contrast this with the words of Muhammad:
“Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'” (Bukhari 84:57)
Not much ambiguity there. Abu Bakr, the first caliph and several other Muslims testified that Muhammad had indeed put Muslim apostates to death. For this reason, the practice is coded in Islamic law.
The next passage that is supposed to inspire Christians to violence is the recounting of David’s victory against the Philistines:
“This day the LORD will deliver you into my..”…..
Is the Bible sexist against women? from comereason.org
I do not believe God is “against” women. The passage to which you are referring is 1 Timothy 2:12, “But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet.” On its face, this may seem a sexist position. Why can’t women teach? Aren’t they as knowledgeable as men? Aren’t they as smart? This line of thinking takes the passage out of context, though.
The above passage (along with several others) is meant to set down the structure of leadership in the church as an organized body. Before I go into detail on this, let me first explain what it is not saying. Warren Wiersbe gives us a great account of how the New Testament approaches women.(1)
The Bible does not say that a woman cannot teach a man about Christ. Priscilla, along with her husband, taught Apollos the way of God more accurately (Acts 18:26).
It does not say women cannot exercise spiritual gifts. The four daughters of Philli…”
*see What is a women’s role in the “church” from a Biblical perspective? goodnewseverybodycom.wordpress.com
BIG Life Questions?
Above are just a “few” examples out there that I found within the last 30 minutes of re”search”, which I’ll share more later as it’s past my bedtime. Till I get back on this topic, feel free to share any other questions, feedback, resources (e.g. websites), etc..
I (Sal-> my personal testimony of God’s healing) was at a “healing” service this past week at a “non-church” building. There were many people that actually got “healed” completely and others that “felt” better. One of the people in the audience asked this question-“Why doesn’t God heal everybody?”..
I immediately thought of doing a blog on this topic and look for answers:
Why Doesn’t God Heal Everyone?
What Does the Bible Say About Healing? By Mary Fairchild Christianity Expert christianity.about.com
…Biblical Reasons God May Not Heal
“Now, before we dive in, I want to admit something: I don’t fully understand all of the reasons God does not heal. I have struggled with my own personal “thorn in the flesh” for years. I’m referring to 2 Corinthians 12:8-9, where the Apostle Paul stated:
Three different times I begged the Lord to take it away. Each time he said, “My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness.” So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me. (NLT)
Like Paul, I pleaded (in my case for years) for relief, for healing. Eventually, like the apostle, I resolved in my weakness to live in the sufficiency of God’s grace.
During my earnest quest for answers about healing, I was fortunate to learn a few things. And so I will pass those on to you:..”
Anointing oil has no value to healing – Pentecost Apostle Religion of Saturday, 25 November 2017 ghanaweb.com
“..He added that “in the healing ministry of Jesus, He never anointed the sick with oil”.
According to him, “the apostles used oil once when Jesus sent them to go and preach (Mark 6:13). Since Jesus was not practising that, it could be that the apostles did this, from their Jewish background. After the death and resurrection of Christ, we did not see the apostles who were with our Lord Jesus anointing the sick with oil for healing purposes”…”
Anointing Oil Fritz Chery February 17, 2016 biblereasons.com
“..Not only is anointing oil being used wrongly in the U.S. It is being abused in other countries such as India, Haiti, Africa, etc. Unsaved televangelists and crooks are selling these oils for $29.99. It makes me mad. People are actually selling the healing of God…”
Towards the end of this service last week. I joined the “speaker” to lay hands on a particular person that has been battling “migraines” for years. She’s had prayer countless time, which the “speaker” replied it could be many unknown reasons (e.g. food allergies, environmental factors, etc..)
I thought of another possible answer why certain people don’t get healed for certain “health” conditions. The “speaker” used to have cancer and would get prayer countless times-no healing! He eventually got free of cancer after therapeutic exercises. I remember going to do a “treasure hunt” (ministry outreach) with his mother around the community. We went to the grocery store and I ended up buying a grocery item with sugar. The mother of the “speaker” told me she stopped eating foods with processes sugar since his son was free from cancer. They don’t want the caner to come back by going back to his “old” eating lifestyle of eating processed sugar.
This particular story is just one example of “why” some people haven’t been healed unless they change their lifestyle.
*see Good News Health & Fitness goodnewshealthandfitness.wordpress.com
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Why am I not getting healed? Sid answers your questions on healing.”
James 5:14 and Healing
Paul Kroll gci.org
“..What does the Bible as a whole and our experience teach about divine healing? Our experience and the many biblical examples and principles that bear on the subject show that not every sick or infirm person has been healed by divine healing. Even as you are reading this, there are many faithful Christians around the world who are sick and who have asked God for his healing, but who have not been healed.
Scripture also contradicts the idea of automatic divine healing. The Bible records numerous cases where righteous people were ill and were not healed. For example, Isaac and Jacob were blind in their later years. Elisha died of an illness. Timothy is spoken of as having “frequent illnesses” (1 Timothy 5:23). Paul said of one of his co-workers in the gospel, “I left Trophimus sick in Miletus” (2 Timothy 4:19). The apostle Paul himself suffered an infirmity that was not healed (2 Corinthians 12:7-10). The continuance (rather than healing) of Paul’s illness or infirmity had a purpose – God’s strength could operate in him through his weakness. The same may be true for many other Christians today…”
“Powerful Teaching Looking at The Scriptures to See God’s Opinion about Healing and Helping People. Enjoy! – Rev. Patrick Coad – firstname.lastname@example.org “
Perseverance in Prayer
The “speaker” shared about how a person got “completely” healed after several prayer trials/attempts during a “past” healing healing service. One of the people at the “non-church” venue last week applied this, which he got “better” and “better” after folks prayed for him several times.
Praying with authority
How to Use Your God-Given Authority | Billye Brim on Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural!
*”blood of Jesus” (“Power in the name”!)
How to receive healing in the name of Jesus – YouTube
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On this episode of Sid Roth’s It’s Supernatural! 2017, Steve Hannett says your breakthrough, your healing, your miracle is just a breath away. Steve says that ANY believer in Jesus can be healed of ANYTHING if you get connected with heaven! And he wants to connect you.
pt.2 Healing Codes -Another way to Heal the heart letusreason.org
“..Cellular memory is that scientists now believe that illnesses, such as cancer, occur when a bad cellular memory replaces a good one. Bad cellular memories can contribute to depression, addiction, and psychological trauma as well. Scientists are working to find out how cells develop these memories, and how they can be changed.
Many in the medical community feel that when we get sick, we need to address five core issues: negative emotions, negative thought patterns, conscious beliefs that are not what they should be, actions and behaviors, and the physiology of their body. But Loyd says these five issues are not the ailments themselves, but merely the symptoms of a deeper, underlying problem. He explains that what is really at the core of all illness is what he calls the issues of the heart, or your core spiritual issues.
Heal the cell memories, replace the bad ones with good ones, and pain and illness will disappear.
As King Solomon said 3000 years ago, “Guard your heart above everything else, for from it flows all of the issues of life.” Addressing matters of the heart, or spiritual beliefs, will allow you to heal your cellular memories. And once the memories have been changed, the cells themselves are able to be healed, and your hypothalamus turns off the stress signals to the body. This, in turn, allows your body to heal. (Cellular Memory and its Role in Healing by Jack Hugo on May 2, 2012)
So what he is saying is that cells go bad from experiences, stress; and his new method of healing can remove this damage.
“The healing code is not a religious thing it works like gravity, The Healing codes work because of physical laws of nature” It is not a religious process but a physical mechanical process. (Larry Napier- spiritual foundations of healing). If that is so, then why do they refer to it as a spiritual healing? Why do they use the Bible Scriptures to support it?..”
Bible Healing Code (Updated)
*see Health: Benefits of “Fasting”? goodnewshealthandfitness.wordpress.com
*cancer cells feed on glucose (e.g. Ketogenic diet)
*see Health: Nutrition-Macronutrients goodnewshealthandfitness.wordpress.com
Is it Always God’s will to heal someone? | Bill Johnson Ministries bjm.org
“..How can God choose not to heal someone when He already purchased their healing? Was His blood enough for all … The only time someone wasn’t healed in the Bible (gospels) is when the disciples prayed for them. For example, Mark 9 when …..”
Pursuing Miracles But Facing Disappointment by Steve Backlund ignitinghope.com
“..We pray this excerpt from Steve Backlund’s church leadership book, Help! I’m a Pastor, would offer keys and encouragement to you as you pursue miracles and healing in your life and the lives of those you lead…”
Paul Rapley Ministries Teaching Ministry paulrapley.com
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