Neutral Perspective: U.S.A. did NOT and did have a Christian founding?

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DID NOT…

The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense founded on the Christian religion

by Jim Walker
Originated: 11 Apr. 1997
Additions: 26 Dec. 2004 .nobeliefs.com
“…Of course many Americans did practice Christianity, but so also did many believe in deistic philosophy. Indeed, most of our influential Founding Fathers, although they respected the rights of other religionists, held to deism and Freemasonry tenets rather than to Christianity…

Moreover, the mentioning of God in the Declaration does not describe the personal God of Christianity. Thomas Jefferson who held deist beliefs, wrote the majority of the Declaration. The Declaration describes “the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God.” This nature’s view of God agrees with deist philosophy and might even appeal to those of pantheistical beliefs, but any attempt to use the Declaration as a support for Christianity will fail for this reason alone…”

-Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson, a Brief Biography (Born April 13, 1743, at Shadwell, Virginia; died July 4, 1826, Monticello) monticello.org
‘..Jefferson inherited slaves from both his father and father-in-law. In a typical year, he owned about 200, almost half of them under the age of sixteen. About eighty of these lived at Monticello; the others lived on adjacent Albemarle County plantations, and on his Poplar Forest estate in Bedford County, Virginia. Jefferson freed two slaves in his lifetime and five in his will and chose not to pursue two others who ran away..”

10 Things You Should Know About Thomas Jefferson* Before You Tour ‘Slavery at Jefferson’s Monticello’
By Michael Coard · 4/11/2014, 9:00 a.m. .phillymag.com
*America’s great, patriotic (slaveholding and slave-raping) third president.
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9. He was a liar

His friend from the American Revolution, Polish nobleman Tadeusz Kosciuszko, came to America in 1798 to receive back pay for his military service. He then wrote a will directing Jefferson to use all of Kosciuszko’s money and land in the U.S. to “free and educate slaves.” Jefferson agreed to do so. After Kosciuszko died in 1817, Jefferson refused to free or educate any of them..”

Anti-Christian Thomas Jefferson quotes – YouTube

The Masonic Influence In The Foundation Of America

Freemasonry and the Founding Fathers of America
Disclosure Nation
“Published on Jun 11, 2014

Masonic conspiracy theories are conspiracy theories involving Freemasonry; hundreds of such conspiracy theories have been described since the late 18th century. Generally, these theories fall into three distinct categories: political (usually involving allegations of control of government, particularly in the United States and the United Kingdom), religious (usually involving allegations of anti-Christian or Satanic beliefs or practices), and cultural (usually involving popular entertainment). Many conspiracy theory writers have connected Freemasons (and the Knights Templar) with worship of the devil; these ideas are based on the doctrines of those organizations.

Of the claims that Freemasonry exerts control over politics, perhaps the best-known example is the New World Order theory, but there are others. These mainly involve aspects and agencies of the United States government, but actual events outside the US (such as the Propaganda Due scandal in Italy) are often used to lend credence to claims.

Another set of theories has to do with Freemasonry and religion, particularly that Freemasonry deals with “the occult”. These theories have their beginnings in the Taxil hoax. In addition to these, there are various theories that focus on the embedding of symbols in otherwise ordinary items, such as street patterns, national seals, etc.

There are Masonic conspiracy theories dealing with every aspect of society. The majority of these theories are based on one or more of the following assumptions:

That Freemasonry is its own religion, requires belief in a unique Masonic “god”, and that belief in this Masonic “god” is contrary to the teachings of various mainstream religions (although usually noted in terms of being specifically contrary to Christian belief)

That the 33rd degree of the Scottish Rite is more than an honorary degree, coupled with the belief that most Freemasons are unaware of hidden or secretive ruling bodies within their organization that govern them, conduct occult ritual, or control various positions of governmental power

That there is a centralized worldwide body that controls all Masonic Grand Lodges, and thus, all of Freemasonry worldwide acts in a unified manner

Scott Wolter has investigate many of these claims and here He Joins Capricorn Radio’s James Swagger to discuss his findings.

http://www.jamesswagger.com/ Interview by James Swagger with Scott Wolter @ Capricorn Radio”
*see 17:00 minute mark on Runestone in Kensington, Minnesota

America Was Founded by the Illuminati November 4, 2015 by David Livingstone henrymakow.com
“..We speak about the occult “conspiracy” as if it were going to erode the status quo.

In fact, as David Livingstone explains, the occult conspiracy is a fait accompli. Modern Western “civilization” is built on the denial of spiritual Reality, i.e. man’s connection to God through our soul. The United States was created by occultists to impose this Godless, i.e. Satanic, dispensation on the world. Society truly is a satanic cult…

These ideals were then enshrined in the American Declaration of Independence, the United States Bill of Rights and the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen. As a cryptic clue to their true origin, the Declaration of Human Rights adopted in France after the Revolution features several prominent occult symbols.

First, is the Illuminati symbol of the All Seeing Eye within a triangle, now found on the Great Seal of the United States. Underneath the title is an Ouroboros, an ancient Gnostic symbol of Satan, found in Western alchemy. Underneath it is a red Phrygian cap, derived from the pagan Mysteries of Mithras. The entire Declaration is guarded by the twin Masonic pillars. As the Bonnet, the orator at the Grand Orient Assembly boasted in 1904:

All the members of the Boston Tea Party were Freemasons who belonged to the St. Andrews lodge in the city. Arguments about the taxes levied on the American colonies by the British finally came to a head in 1773, with the passing of the Tea Act.

The British, attempting to save the East India Company from bankruptcy, arranged for the delivery of tea directly to the colonies. In revolt against the new tax they had to pay, a group of Boston citizens disguised as Native Americans raided the East India Company’s ships in the city harbor, and threw their cargo overboard.
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Among the fifty-six American rebels who signed the Declaration of Independence, only six were not members of the Masonic Order. Their success lead to the establishment of the first modern secular state. The purpose of removing the role of religion from the state was ostensibly to limit the sort of persecution that had become habitual in Europe…

In September 18, 1793, President George Washington dedicated the United States Capitol. Dressed in Masonic apron, the president placed a silver plate on the cornerstone and covered it with the Masonic symbols of corn, oil and wine.

The plan of the city of Washington DC itself was designed by Freemason and architect Pierre Charles L’Enfante in the form of a pentagram, or five-pointed star. In 1848, in a Masonic ceremony, the cornerstone was laid of the Washington Monument, an obelisk or pillar, like those formerly dedicated to the dying gods of ancient Middle East…

Another great piece by Livingstone. Only thing I would add is that the Declaration of Independence was not written by Thomas Jefferson, who did not claim authorship until 1821. It was written by Thomas Paine, ideological hit man dispatched by Ben Franklin from Britain to America in 1774 to write COMMON SENSE and then the Declaration…

Paine could not be acknowledged as author of the Declaration because (1) he was not an elected official; (2) he was not an American; and (3) he was virulently anti-Christian, as seen in his book THE AGE OF REASON, written in France where he became an honorary citizen and member of the French National Convention after the bloody revolution there.

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-Thomas Paine

Thomas Paine – Journalist, Inventor – Biography.com biography.com
“..born in Thetford, England, in 1737, to a Quaker father and an Anglican mother. Paine received little formal education, but did learn to read, write and perform arithmetic. At the age of 13, he began working with his father as stay maker (the thick rope stays used on sailing ships) in Thetford, a shipbuilding town…

..Paine arrived in Philadelphia on November 30, 1774, taking up his first regular employment—helping to edit the Pennsylvania Magazine—in January 1775. At this time, Paine began writing in earnest, publishing several articles, anonymously or under pseudonyms. One of his early articles was a scathing condemnation of the African slave trade, called “African Slavery in America,” which he signed under the name “Justice and Humanity.”..

Thomas Paine and Christianity By Smilodon’s Retreat • Jan 3, 2015 skepticink.com

“..Arguably, Thomas Paine is the Father of the American Revolution. His two pamphlets, Common Sense and The American Crisis (both published in 1776), were the foundation of a break from Britain and independence for the colonies.

Many people have heard the phrase “These are the times that try men’s souls”. That came from The American Crisis.

He was also a very early (if not the first) Humanist. He argued for the ending of slavery. He accepted science and social progress. He was unafraid to consider new ideas, looking at how the Iroquois could live in nature and have democracy.
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There are quite a few good lines in there, but the upshot is that it appears Thomas Paine believes in a god. This would make him a deist.

Look at how he describes Christianity; “strange fable”, “the notion of a Trinity of Gods has enfeebled the belief of one God”, “notion instead of principle”, “all this nonsense”, “there is none more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called Christianity”.

And note the last bit of that last paragraph, where Paine describes what Christianity really is. It’s an engine of power, of control. It takes wealth from the people and gives to the church leaders and gives nothing in return.

Thomas Paine could have been writing about Joel Osteen, the Pope, or L. Ron Hubbard for that matter. All of these (and more like them) have more control, power, and wealth than their position and their religion requires.
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The Most Shocking, Rare Quotes of THOMAS PAINE – YouTube

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Christopher Columbus: The Secret Jew jerusalemprayerteam.org
“..In 1492, Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand had issued an edict of ejection regarding the Jews. It decreed that every person of Jewish ancestry had to leave Spain or be executed. As a result, several Jewish businessmen went to Christopher Columbus, a Genoese Jew whose family had supposedly converted to Christianity under duress, and pledged to finance his efforts to discover a new land. They purchased two of the three ships that carried Columbus and his sailors across the ocean to find the territory that would later become known as the Americas…

Why was this so crucial? King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella were seeking a means to unite the country and had selected Tomás de Torquemada as the Inquisitor General for most of Spain. The harassment began with attempts to drive out Jews, Protestants, and nonbelievers. Benzion Netanyahu, father of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was one of the world’s leading scholars on this era, and wrote a great deal about the Marranos and conversos (Spanish Jews) and the basic reasons behind the attacks on them. According to Professor Netanyahu, the persecution launched against the Jews was mainly based on “racial hatred and political considerations rather than by religious zeal.”

..Columbus’ initial voyage was funded not so much by Queen Isabella’s jewels, but mostly by a group of wealthy Jews
Columbus hoped to find a source of gold — perhaps King Solomon’s mines — in Asia in order to recapture the city of Jerusalem from the Muslims and fund the restoration of the Temple
Columbus hoped to find a place of refuge for Christians and Jews alike in order for them to escape the horrors of persecution descending upon Spain
Columbus traveled with a Jew who spoke Hebrew in hopes of finding the ten Lost Tribes during his trip to the New World….

But, as we have just read, that was not his only aim: he wanted to deliver the gold of Ophir, the bounty of King Solomon’s mines, to the monarchs who had financed his endeavor…

Columbus had also mentioned to those willing to listen that he was seeking a route to India. Why would this have piqued the interest of Jews in Spain and made some of the wealthy willing to invest in Christopher’s voyage? The answer is a bit convoluted but provides great insight.

Judah was not the only son of Jacob the patriarch; he also fathered the heads of the other eleven tribes of Israel: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, Zebulon, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Joseph, and Benjamin. From the vagaries of Hebrew history two dominions developed, one in the South (Benjamin and Judah) and one in the North (the remaining ten tribes). Some 700 years before Christianity emerged, Assyrian kings attacked the northern tribes and carried the inhabitants—except for those in Samaria—to Babylon. The number of captives is impossible to calculate. Three years after the initial invasion, Samaria was captured, and its peoples taken into captivity….

At a juncture in history when anti-Semitism had reached a fanatical note in Spain, Columbus discovered a New World to which the Jews could escape the oppression of the Church in Europe. With abundant determination and bravery, the Jews eventually won the privilege of observing their religion in that New World.

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*see Deep Thought: Where are the “original” Tribes of Israel? goodnewseverybodycom.wordpress.com

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Was America Founded As A Christian Nation? Bill Flax , Contributor Sep 25, 2012 @ 09:51 PM 368,782 views
I explore the intersection of economics and culture.
“…The most damning evidence of a non-Christian past is a humiliating 1797 treaty with the Barbary Pirates. President Adams sought to stem unremitting Muslim raids against Mediterranean shipping and protect American sailors from African slavery. This obscure treaty submitted, “The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”..”

Did America Have a Christian Founding? from heritage.org

“…A fourth possibility is that the Founders acted as Christians in their private and/or public lives. Some historians have argued that the Founding cannot be called Christian because some Founders did not join churches, take communion, or remain faithful to their spouses. Moreover, in their public capacity, they did not act in a Christian manner because they did things such as fight an unjust war against England and did not immediately abolish slavery.[5]..

2. The War for Independence

On the surface, the War for American Independence appears to be an inherently un-Christian event. The Apostle Paul, in Romans 13, seems to leave little room for revolution: “Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained by God. Whosoever therefore resists the power, resists the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.”

Historically, Christian thinkers have taken this and similar biblical passages to prohibit rebellion against civic authorities. However, in the 12th century, some Christian scholars began to allow for the possibility that inferior magistrates might overthrow evil kings. …

The 56 Men who Signed The 1776 Declaration Of Independence 4 Jul 2014 by Volubrjotr politicalvelcraft.org
“..THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE JULY 4, 1776

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
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The Forgotten Signers of the Declaration of Independence

Bill of Rights

Magna Carta, English Bill of Rights, and American Government

Bill of Rights (Amendments 1-5) | Principles of the … – YouTube

Bill of Rights Guaranteed Religious Liberty Dan Graves, MSL christianity.com
“…For the most part, those who were for the federal system were for the constitution as it stood. Those who opposed a federal system, wanted more guarantees of rights. Several state conventions asked for such a bill. Thomas Jefferson urged that they be given their wish. A “bill of rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on earth, general or particular, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference.” The U. S. Congress agreed and by a two thirds majority passed ten amendments to the constitution, called the Bill of Rights.

On this day, December 15, 1791, the Bill of Rights was ratified. It is significant to church history because of its first Amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..” This amendment was the result of long centuries of efforts by religious groups such as the Quakers and Baptists to obtain religious liberty.

The first amendment meant that the Federal government of the United States could not establish a national church, such as was common in many other nations. Anyone could worship as he or she pleased and the Federal government could not say “boo” except under special circumstances.

Federal civil rights are not obligatory for states, however. At the state level, established churches continued to exist for some years.

Many battles have been fought in the courts over just what this amendment means. Today, when its words are used as an excuse to forbid children to pray in school or read a Bible on school property, it is good to remember that in the understanding of the generation that adopted the amendment was not that the government should oppose religion or deny it the same rights of expression enjoyed by other organizations, but rather that it not impose a national religion nor stop people from engaging in their preferred form of worship. It guaranteed freedom for worship, not freedom from religion.”

The Separation of Church and State in the United States
Online Publication Date:
Dec 2014 Steven K. Green americanhistory.oxfordre.com
‘..Scholars of American religion have long debated whether and to what extent religion served as an “energizing propulsion” for the American Revolution and informed the political principles that underlie the nation’s founding documents. Unquestioningly, however, matters of religious liberty were of great concern to the founding generation, though they were secondary to the more pressing issues of military success and national unity. As the new states organized their governments and experimented with various models of representative democracy, they also addressed questions about the appropriate relationship between religion and government. The change that transpired over a short period was truly remarkable. In fifteen years, after the onset of the American Revolution, the number of religious establishments was effectively reversed with ten of fourteen states (now including Vermont) either disbanding their establishments or declining to enact legislation to support their previous systems. Most states also liberalized rules that had imposed political disabilities (e.g., public office holding) on dissenting groups. At the national level, the authors of the Constitution inserted a ban on any religious test for public office holding, while the First Congress drafted a constitutional amendment prohibiting a religious establishment and protecting the free exercise of religion. By the time the last state (Massachusetts) disestablished in 1833, a phrase had arisen to represent the distinctly American pattern of church-state relations: separation of church and state.3

Separation of church and state has been part of the nation’s legal and cultural nomenclature since the early 1800s. Judges, politicians, educators, and even religious leaders have embraced church-state separation as central to church-state relations and a cornerstone of American democracy. The Supreme Court first employed the term “separation of church and state” in 1879 as shorthand for the meaning of the First Amendment’s religion clauses, stating “it may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the amendment.” To this day, most Americans support the principle of church-state separation as one of the hallmarks of American government. Although the phrase is not found in the Constitution, no organizing theory has had a greater impact on the way Americans conceptualize the intersection of religion, culture, and politics than the principle of church-state separation.4..”

DID Have..

Faith of Our Fathers-

Christianity and America’s Founders faithofourfathers.net
“…The pilgrims were followed to New England by the Puritans, who created bible-based commonwealths. Those commonwealths practiced the same sort of representative government as their church covenants. Those governmental covenants and compacts numbered more than 100, and were the foundation for our Constitution.

New Haven (Connecticut) and Massachusetts were founded by Puritans who wanted to reform the Church of England, who later became known as Congregationalists. Roger Williams founded the colony of Rhode Island based on the principle of freedom of conscience. Pennsylvania was established by William Penn as a Quaker colony. Maryland was a haven for Catholics from Protestant England.

America was indeed founded by bible-believing Christians and based on Christian principles. When they founded this country, the Founding Fathers envisioned a government that would promote and encourage Christianity.

All but two of the first 108 universities founded in America were Christian. This includes the first, Harvard, where the student handbook listed this as Rule #1: “Let every student be plainly instructed and earnestly pressed to consider well, the main end of his life and studies is to know God and Jesus Christ, which is eternal life, John 17:3; and therefore to lay Jesus Christ as the only foundation for our children to follow the moral principles of the Ten Commandments.”

In 1777. Continental Congress voted to spend $300,000 to purchase bibles which were to be distributed throughout the 13 colonies! And in 1782, the United States Congress declared, “The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.”

So, let us take a look at some of the lives and words of our Founding Fathers to see whether they were Christians or whether history has been revised…”

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AMERICA’S CHRISTIAN FOUNDING FATHERS


“Published on Nov 22, 2012

Most Americans have been conditioned to believe and to assume that the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution requires a “wall of separation between Church and State.” This concept is seldom challenged today.

But it is not actually a part of the Constitution or any of the Amendments;
It did not exist until well into the twentieth century.

The establishment and free-exercise clauses of the First Amendment state: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”

The meaning was crystal clear to Americans and American jurisprudence for generations.

Very simply, the federal government was prohibited from establishing a single national denomination above all others (a state religion—endowed with public funding, special privileges, and penalties on other faiths that reject its doctrines—as Great Britain had) and secondly, the federal government could not interfere with the individual’s right to freedom of worship.

The purpose of the First Amendment was not to protect Americans from religion, it was to protect religion from government intrusion. This “understanding” is in full and obvious accord with the raison d’etre of the Bill of Rights to limit the federal government’s power and thereby secure the freedom of individuals and the rights of the states. The Bill of Rights was a declaration of what the federal government could not do. …”

-Thomas Jefferson

A True Story About Thomas Jefferson July 18, 2014 daleebel.org
“..With regard to Thomas Jefferson, deconstructionism is alive and well.

Many historians considered Jefferson the brightest of the Founding Fathers. He was a true renaissance man. The election of 1800 between Jefferson and John Adams was said to be the dirtiest election in American history. Stories were printed daily about both candidates that were flat out false, but many believed what they read and had an impression of Jefferson that simply wasn’t true. In David Barton’s The Jefferson Lies he writes about a story that more accurately portrays Jefferson’s personality:

“Jefferson was not only unassuming and humble but he was also good-natured, and his manners never deserted him—even to those who opposed him. For example, on one occasion while returning on horseback to Washington, he greeted a passing pedestrian. The stranger did not recognize President Jefferson, but the two began a friendly conversation that soon turned to politics. The man began to attack and deride the president, even repeating several of the lies that had been spread about him. Jefferson was amused and he asked the man if he knew the President personally? ‘No,’ was the reply, ‘nor do I wish to.’ ‘But do you think it fair,’ asked Jefferson, ‘to repeat such stories about a man and condemn one you dare not face?’ ‘I will never shrink from meeting Mr. Jefferson should he ever come in my way’ replied the stranger.

Jefferson then promised him that if he would come to the White House at a certain time the next day, he would personally introduce him to the president. The next day the stranger appeared for the meeting and was taken to meet President Jefferson. The man was immediately embarrassed and began to apologize, but Jefferson, with a grin on his face, laughed off the apology and extended his hand in welcome greeting. The two then spent several hours in delightful conversation, and when the man rose to depart, Jefferson prevailed on him to stay for dinner.” Barton, 211-212

An Action to Take: Communicate this story and the concept of “deconstructionism” with two other people this week.
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Charles Carroll 1737-1832 ushistory.org
“..Charles Carroll was the last surviving member of those who signed the Declaration. He died, the last survivor of the signers of the Declaration, in 1832 at the age of 95…

Charles Carroll of Carrollton – The Signer charlescarrollhouse.org

CHARLES CARROLL OF CARROLLTON 1737- 1832

“..By 1800, Carroll had retired from politics to concentrate on his business affairs. Considered the largest slaveholder at the time of the Revolution, and owning nearly 400-500 blacks, he became president of the American Colonization Society (1828-1831) seeking to solve America’s slave problem by resettling them in Africa. Carroll became one of the founders of the Chesapeake and Ohio Canal Company and invested in the Bank of Maryland, the Bank of Baltimore and the First and Second Bank of the United States. He held many shares in canal, turnpike, bridge and water companies in the Washington-Baltimore regional area. He purchased $40,000 of state-backed securities to build the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad, serving on its first board of directors…”

James Madison and Religion in Public wallbuilders.com
“..First, Madison was publicly outspoken about his personal Christian beliefs and convictions. For example, he encouraged his friend, William Bradford (who served as Attorney General under President Washington), to make sure of his own spiritual salvation:..

Madison even desired that all public officials – including Bradford – would declare
openly and publicly their Christian beliefs and testimony:

…Second,
Madison was a member of the committee that authored the 1776 Virginia Bill of Rights and approved of its clause declaring that:

It is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forbearance, love, and charity toward each other.[3]
(emphasis added)

Third,
Madison’s proposed wording for the First Amendment demonstrates that he opposed only the establishment of a federal denomination, not public religious activities. His proposal declared:

The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established. [4] (emphasis added)

(Madison reemphasized that position throughout the debates. [5])

Fourth,
in 1789, Madison served on the Congressional committee which authorized, approved, and selected paid Congressional chaplains. [6]

Fifth,
in 1812, President Madison signed a federal bill which economically aided a Bible Society in its goal of the mass distribution of the Bible. [7]

Sixth,
throughout his Presidency (1809-1816), Madison endorsed public and official religious expressions by issuing several proclamations for national days of prayer, fasting, and thanksgiving. [8]..”

The Christian Belief of James Madison Bill Fortenberry increasinglearning.com
“..So, does this letter by James Madison support the claim that he was not really a Christian but rather a deist? Not in the least. In fact, it proves the exact opposite since in the first section of the letter, Mr. Madison stated expressly that Christianity is the best and purest religion, and in the same paragraph as the quoted portion, he affirms that Mr. Adams “ably maintained” his position that America is a Christian nation. ..”

God Save America Again documentary (Full) Crusade to Save our Nation!
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Solution: Improve Law Enforcement’s Credibility?

Unfortunately, we hear, watch, or read more of the increasing “negativity” of our nation’s law enforcement. What can “we” do about it as a nation?

Have them do more training in “cultural sensitivity” topics, such as racism. More education on how to deal with the “developmental disability” community?

“Trigger Happy” Violent Cops:

Their motto is “to protect and to serve” us, right? Why don’t they use “rubber bullets” instead of the “real” ones that can kill “us” ?

Good Question: Why Don’t Police Just Try To Hurt Suspects?
November 24, 2015 10:43 PM By Heather Brown minnesota.cbslocal.com
“MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — Over the past week, WCCO has devoted significant coverage to officer-involved shootings — from the death of Jamar Clark a week and half ago to a Columbia Heights man early Tuesday morning.

That had Sherri from Buffalo Lake and Fitz from Excelsior wanting to know: Why don’t police just try to hurt suspects? Good Question.

“They’re not really trained to shoot to kill, they’re trained to stop the threat, which often results in death,” says Dale Burns, a Hennepin Technical College teacher of police training programs for the state of Minnesota.

Burns says officers are trained to shoot at the chest, or center mass of a person’s body, because it is the biggest target and will stop someone if he or she gets hit.

“They could’ve shot him in his arm or leg, tased him, but kill him?” asked Jamie Castilla on Tuesday after her brother was killed by police. “That’s a shot to kill.”

Shooting at a hand or arm is very hard to do, says Burns. Research from the Force Science Institute shows hands and arms can be the fastest moving body parts. Shooting at a person’s legs can also leave their hands free.

“If I could see their hand perfectly and they were holding still and I had lots of time to aim, sure — but it doesn’t work that way. It’s very fluid. It happens extremely fast,” Burns said. “If you miss, you’re probably going to get killed, or shot yourself, or stabbed, or clubbed — whatever the case may be.”

Minnesota law allows officers to use deadly force to protect themselves or someone else from death or great bodily harm. Defense attorney Joe Tamburino says police are legally able to use more force than the average person.

“The reviewing party has to decide from the perspective of a reasonable police officer on the scene if there was a threat,” he says.

In 2012, lawmakers in New York proposed legislation that would require officers to shoot at limbs, but that bill was quickly tabled. Over the past three decades, the Supreme Court has ruled police can use deadly force if they believe there’s a threat of death or serious physical injury.

“They got tasers, other things around them, why are guns the first option?” asked Deondre Lowe of Minneapolis.

Burns says tasers don’t always work, especially in Minnesota where people wear lots of layers of clothes. He also points out a taser takes a relatively long time to reload if it doesn’t work the first time.

“They do use tasers quite a bit, but if you use a taser in a deadly force situation, you’re asking an officers to take on a lot of risk that they shouldn’t be expected to do,” he said.”

-Need more Humility and take blame/fault of “imperfect” system and find ways to improve

The Daily Show – The Fatal Shootings of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile


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Planting “Fake” Evidence?

Baltimore Police Officer Accidentally Records Himself Planting Drugs At Crime Scene
Latifah Muhammad,Vibe Thu, Jul 20 11:08 AM PDT yahoo.com
“An officer from the Baltimore Police department accidentally recorded himself planting evidence. On Wednesday (July 19), Baltimore’s Fox 45 published footage of the officer hiding drugs at a crime scene without realizing that his body-worn camera caught him in the act.

In the recording, which was captured in January, officer Richard Pinheiro and two other officers, can be seen in an ally on the side of a house. The body camera appears to capture Pinheiro hiding a bag of pills under a heap of trash, while the two other officers stand behind him.

The cops head back to the sidewalk, at which point Pinheiro turns on his body camera. But as VOX notes, body cams can record up to 30 seconds of footage before being manually activated.

“I’m going to check here,” Pinheiro is heard telling the other officers before heading to the back of the house where he pretends to rummage through the trash heap. After a few second, he uncovers the bag and alerts the other officers.
..”

Ex-Baltimore Cop Michael Wood Exposes Police Culture Of Corruption & Abuse (Interview w/ Cenk Uygur)

Abuse

Officer Melendez sentenced

Judge GOES OFF on COP for being a RACIST SCUMBAG

DUI’s

This is how you can be arrested for DUI — even if you’re stone cold sober
https://youtu.be/Zk99NofbLVQ
“11Alive
Published on Dec 21, 2017
Watch the full investigation: 11Alive.com/thedrugwhisperer “

-Sexual Harassment

Creepy video appears to show cop ‘GROPING young mum over car on motorway’ By Paul Harper / Published 7th March 2018 dailystar.co.uk
“…Her two kids, aged three and eight, were in the vehicle at the time on interstate 75 in Campbell County.

The furious mother claimed in her legal bid that the same officer stopped her three hours later near home and remarked: “We have to stop meeting like this.”

She alleged that after being ordered out of the truck, Lloyd put his hands inside her waistband and touched her bum and genital area…
The Tennessee Highway Patrol in the US have supported their officer, saying that he “conducted this traffic stop in a professional manner in an effort to protect the motoring public”.

But state prosecutor Jared Effler slammed the cop, saying his actions were “inconsistent with his training”.”

DISTURBING dash cam footage appears to show a police officer groping a young mum over her car during a traffic stop.

Cop Forces Woman to Lift Shirt and Expose Herself (Video)

Women Sue for Humiliating Vaginal Search From State Troopers (Video)

Racism

A Former Baltimore Cop Explains Why the Department Targets Black Men

Ex-Cops

Ex-BPD Cop Joe Crystal Blew The Whistle On Corrupt Police & Paid The Price (Interview w/ Cenk Uygur)

“On October 27, 2011, Baltimore police officer Joe Crystal witnessed two fellow cops beating up a drug suspect after the suspect, fleeing from the officers, kicked in the door of a home belonging to another officer’s girlfriend. Faced with the difficult decision of whether to turn in his fellow officers, Crystal felt he had to do the right thing, and reported the officers’ actions to the State’s Attorney’s Office. As a result, Crystal was labeled a “snitch” and a “rat cop” by many of his fellow officers and subjected to threats and intimidation — including having a dead rat placed on his car’s windshield. Eventually, in 2014 he bowed to the pressure and resigned from the Baltimore PD.”

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Neutral Perspective: Our nation (U.S.A.) needs to make stricter gun laws or we have the right to bear arms?

Need to Make Stricter Gun Laws

Will School Shooting Lead to Stricter Gun Laws


“Published on Dec 16, 2012

Even after one of its members was shot and nearly killed last year by gunman Jared Loughner, Congress did not enact legislation to make it more difficult to buy or carry a gun.
In the immediate wake of the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., it’s too soon to know whether federal or state governments will enact new restrictions on gun purchases or ownership. It’s also too early to foresee whether Congress or state legislatures will enact new policies to deal with mentally ill Americans.
For better or worse, the new policies would need to be determined in the political arena, with electoral accountability, and most members of Congress have shown no interest in going beyond the last major legislation to regulate gun purchases or ownership in 1994.
President Barack Obama’s initial comment Friday afternoon at the White House suggested that he wishes the policy decisions could be made above or aside from politics. “We’re going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics,” Obama said

Shooting in Oregon: 11 essential facts about guns and mass shootings in America By Max Ehrenfreund October 1 at 3:33 PM 2015 washingtonpost.com

8. States with stricter gun control laws have fewer deaths from gun-related violence.
“…Higher populations, more stress, more immigrants, and more mental illness were not correlated with more deaths from gun violence. But one thing he found was, perhaps, perfectly predictable: States with tighter gun control laws appear to have fewer gun-related deaths. The disclaimer here is that correlation is not causation. But correlations can be suggestive:

“The map overlays the map of firearm deaths above with gun control restrictions by state,” Florida wrote in 2012. “It highlights states which have one of three gun control restrictions in place – assault weapons’ bans, trigger locks, or safe storage requirements. Firearm deaths are significantly lower in states with stricter gun control legislation. Though the sample sizes are small, we find substantial negative correlations between firearm deaths and states that ban assault weapons (-.45), require trigger locks (-.42), and mandate safe storage requirements for guns (-.48).”..”

NEUTRAL

-Debate

Megyn Kelly Panel Clashes Over Stricter Gun Control To Prevent Mass Shootings -Heated Debate

“Published on Dec 21, 2012

Megyn Kelly Panel Clashes Over Stricter Gun Control To Prevent Mass Shootings -Heated Debate
On Friday afternoon, Megyn Kelly’s panel — comprised of pro-gun advocate John Lott and pro-gun control advocate Lori Haas — debated how effective gun control legislation would be in quelling the string of gun violence the country as seen. What effect, Kelly asked, would gun control laws really have?

Lott, who’s made his case before, reiterated his argument that gun-free zones give criminals incentive to attack areas they know are vulnerable. “Let’s say, God forbid, a criminal was stalking you or your family,” Lott said. “Would you feel safer putting a sign on your home that said, this home is a gun-free zone?”

To the contrary, Haas, of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, offered a much different perspective, having been directly affected by such incidents. About five years ago, Haas’ daughter, Emily, was shot twice in the back of the head when a gunman opened fire on Virginia Tech’s campus. He was using a high-capacity magazine clip, Haas said — and state police said when they were banned, the use of those clips in crime was down. But when the ban expired, the incidents of those clips in crimes increased.

“It’s unacceptable in America we allow this to happen to our children and that we see the answer to gun violence as more guns,” Haas argued.

“Guns make it easier for bad things to happen,” Lott said. “But they also have benefits in terms of protecting people in terms of protecting people who are being threatened by crime.”

To Haas’ point, Lott argued that he has yet to see evidence that banning certain high-capacity magazine clips has had any benefit. As Kelly turned the discussion to the gunman, Haas went on to argue the mental health aspect of the problem, asserting that people who are mentally ill or have violent tendencies should have more difficulty getting guns.

-History

Does Gun Control Have A Racist History?
https://youtu.be/yK7W6ou1mQc

Michael B.2 years ago

Protection from a tyrannical government, which IS the intent of The Second Amendment.”

The racist history of gun control in the US explained

-Other

Every mass shooting over last 20 years has one thing in common… and it’s not guns m.disclose.tv
“The following is a republishing of an important article written by Dan Roberts from AmmoLand.com. It reveals the real truth about mass shootings that bureaucrats and lawmakers are choosing to sweep under the rug: psychiatric drugs. If you want to know the real reason why mass shootings are taking place, this is the “inconvenient truth” the media won’t cover.

As part of a collective grassroots effort to defend the Bill of Rights against usurpers and tyrants, Natural News (and now, Waking Up Wisconsin) is republishing this article without asking for permission first. When it comes to fighting tyrants and defending liberty, the unstated agreement across the entire liberty-loving grassroots community is, “Use our articles; help spread the word!” Every article I write here on Natural News, for example, may be reprinted with credit and a link back to the original source article on NaturalNews.com…

-World

Dear America, here’s how other countries stop mass shootings Written by Annalisa Merelli February 22, 2018 qz.com
“..Of course, mass shootings do occur in other countries. Germany, China, Russia, Switzerland have all suffered mass shootings in recent years. Unlike the US legislature, German and Swiss lawmakers responded to massacres by changing the law to prevent such shootings from happening again.
•In Germany, automated and semi-automated firearms were banned in 2008 (with the exception of hunting and sport-shooting, which require permits), in response to the 2002 Erfurt massacre, when a 19-year-old killed 17 at school.
•In Switzerland, a country with similar attitudes toward gun ownership as the US, the law was changed in 2008 to require stricter ammunition storage after a man killed 14 and injured 14 more in a regional parliament in 2001.

China and Russia’s governments are also tightening the law on who may own guns, and what kinds of guns.
..”

Matthew 26:52 Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword. http://www.openbible.info/topics/swordsLive by the Sword - Die by the Sword http://youtu.be/Q2qFam6zP7MGood News Sociologyhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/139706352858524/?ref=br_tfThe Gospel of Matthew - [23/26] http://youtu.be/ojD7sg11i-g?t=9m27sstart @9:27 more...https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152157682067550&set=oa.300672596749115&type=3&theater

We Have the Right to Bear Arms!

Right to Bear Arms
constitutioncenter.org
“Passed by Congress September 25, 1789. Ratified December 15, 1791. The first 10 amendments form the Bill of Rights..”

Ben Stein: Stricter gun laws won’t cut shootings – CBS News


“Published on Dec 18, 2012

August 19, 2012 – Issues are presented here that are just basic truths.. the results of gun control are varied. Generally the culture surrounding the areas have more to do with the outcomes than the specific laws imposed. It is a complicated subject to say the least. The title here is misleading as stricter gun control laws do in fact reduce shootings in some cases.. however this is not universally true.

source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3445_162-…

-Shootings

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-Florida

=>Orlando 2016
*see Deep Thought: Prayers for Orlando Shooting goodnewseverybodycom.wordpress.com

=>Parkland 2018
*see Deep Thought: Prayers for Parkland Shooting? goodnewseverybodycom.wordpress.com

Florida shooting false flag? – YouTube

Chelsea DaGoy Published on Feb 15, 2018
“..another shooter..shots could be heard in the other side”

David Icke | Florida High School Shooting
https://www.davidicke.com/index.php/article/457438/florida-high-school-shooting
1 day ago – Was suspected 19-year-old gunman Nicolas Cruz guilty of mass murder or a convenient patsy? According … According to #false flag, the Parkland school “had active shooter training” before the incident. … Woman Claims To Have Been With Florida School Shooter (Nicholas Cruz) At the Time of Shooting.

Another False Flag Shooting in Florida? February 15, 2018 by Merit Freeman henrymakow.com
‘..► The story was posted by news outlets days ahead of time. (See below)

► There was an Emergency Response training drill happening that day in the county adjacent to the incident. This is the “smoking gun” in my opinion.

► Eye-witnesses reported multiple shooters, yet only one “gunman” was arrested.

Eye-Witness Confirms Multiple Shooters [1] [VIDEO]

Eye-Witness Confirms Multiple Shooters [2] [VIDEO]

► Crisis actors were on the scene to give interviews.

A “mom” claiming to have been in the 2017 Fort Lauderdale, Florida airport shooting now says that her “kids” were part of this shooting. A family who false flags together, stays together.

No Coincidence: Mom & Sons Victims In Multiple Shootings [VIDEO]

► An active shooter drill preceded the actual shooting.

Eye-Witness Confirms Active Shooter Drill [VIDEO]

► Confusion and misdirection pertaining to the identity of the shooter/patsy were rampant.
..”

BREAKING: PARKLAND FLORIDA SHOOTING NARRATIVE BEGINS TO BREAK DOWN AS NEW WITNESSES EMERGE

ron johnson
Published on Feb 15, 2018
New witnesses claim there were multiple shooters as well as drills scheduled for that morning…

BLACKOPS TARGET’S FLORIDA TEACHER’S & CHILDREN
https://youtu.be/zoMIXjb-GBI
“three shooters…shot teacher in head…etc…”
James Munder

-Las Vegas
*see Deep Thought: Prayers for Las Vegas Shooting Concert Victims Affected goodnewseverybodycom.wordpress.com

It’s all FAKE folks! Crisis actors EXPOSED

-Louisiana

29-Year-Old Black Male Dead After Killing 3 Cops, Wounding 3 More In Baton Rouge “Cowardly” Ambush
Tyler Durden’s picture

by Tyler Durden
Jul 17, 2016 7:57 PM zerohedge.com

“…Authorities initially believed that two other assailants might be at large, but hours later said the dead gunman was the only person who fired at the officers. However, a state police spokesman said investigators were unsure whether he had some kind of help from others. “We are not ready to say he acted alone,” Major Doug Cain said…”

-Dallas

The Mainstream Media Is Not Real “News”: Explosive Evidence of the Dallas Police Shootings Being A False Flag
July 13, 2016 / Jeff Berwick / 12 Comments dollarvigilante.com
“Americans need to understand that virtually nothing of importance that is shown on mainstream media programming is real or factual.

All major events are scripted or are covered with a massive propaganda bias.

This shouldn’t be news to anyone who is paying attention.

According to Amber Lyon, a three-time Emmy award winning journalist, CNN is routinely paid by the US government and foreign governments to selectively report on certain events.

I’ve personally met with the White House Press Corp who told me that they are actors not journalists.

And the CIA has admitted to using the mainstream media for propaganda purposes:…

THE TELEPORTING GUNMAN

There were no shots fired from the garage in the initial melee

Dallas police Chief David Brown stated that Micah Johnson, the alleged lone gunman, was killed with a bomb-carrying robot on the 2nd floor of the Bank of America Parking Plaza, which is south of Main Street from the El Centro College complex…

Many media reports have tended to focus on the garage as the source of the shooting, but this is highly misleading. All of the initial gunfire, which happened just before 9:00 PM, in fact came from Lamar Street where a man parked an SUV and began shooting with what was reported to be an SKS rifle. There were no shots from the garage at this time.

Multiple angles from various pieces of amateur footage allow for the location of the shooter to be determined.

The first vantage point (red V1 in image above) was taken from a parking lot looking northwest towards the intersection of Lamar and Main. Squad cars which had been parked at that intersection for the protests can be seen, along with officers who have been struck and are lying on the pavement. Notice that the one officer is ducking behind his car to shield himself from bullets travelling south along Lamar.

Another vantage point, V3, was taken from the 2nd level of the Bank of America Parking Plaza, the same level where Micah Johnson is alleged to have been bombed by police. Once again you can see the same squad cars and officers ducking from gunfire which is originating from behind the SUV. In the video, you can see the gunman step out from behind the SUV, fire several shots for cover, and then duck behind a pillar of the El Centro College building.

…DIRECT EVIDENCE OF A 2ND ACCOMPLICE

Who is bag man?

The impossible route isn’t the only gaping hole in the lone gunman theory being promoted by the police, FBI, and the mainstream media. There is direct video evidence of a 2nd accomplice…”

Orlando (Florida) Gay Club Shooting

5 Reasons to Question the Official Story of the Orlando Shooting
TOPICS:Brandon TurbevilleFBIISISOrlando Shooting

June 13, 2016 By Brandon Turbeville
“…FBI Foreknowledge, ISIS Sympathies, Taliban Ties

What may at first sound like an instance of senseless violence, brings with it a number of other questions. For instance, the FBI was already well aware of Mateen and his connections to radical jihad and terrorism. According to CNN’s article, “50 Killed in Florida Nightclub, Shooter Pledged ISIS Allegiance,” two officials tell CNN that the FBI had investigated Mateen at some point for possibly having ties to or sympathizing with Islamic extremism. A law enforcement official said there were two cases opened involving Mateen but the probes didn’t result in enough evidence to charge him with anything…
Who Controls ISIS?
… ISIS was entirely created, funded and directed by the United States, Britain, France and other NATO countries. Its actions have been coordinated by the Anglo-American Intelligence apparatus for geopolitical purposes all across the world both at home and abroad. …

*see Neutral Perspective: ISIS was created by Global terrorists or Global State governments?
Conclusion

While the right-wing media blames Muslims and the left-wing media blame guns, perhaps it would be more effective if thinking individuals would examine the possibilities that this attack was a false flag incident designed to push an agenda that would benefit those in power in some way or other. Out of this attack we will no doubt see another push for the evisceration of the Second Amendment and other civil liberties as well as increased hype regarding ISIS as a threat to the American way of life and a greater attempt at justification for foreign adventures….”

‘Craft Intl mercenaries carried out San Bernardino shooting’ Tue Dec 8, 2015 11:37AM HomeUSInterviews presstv.com

Mercenaries from the Craft International, a tactical training company for the US military, carried out last week’s false flag operation in San Bernardino, California, according to Steven D Kelley, a former NSA/CIA contractor.

On Wednesday, Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 29, stormed a holiday party in San Bernardino, California, killing at least 14 people and injuring 21 in the deadliest mass shooting in the US in three years. Hours later, the couple reportedly died in a fire exchange with police.

Malik had pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Daesh (ISIL) terrorist group, three US officials familiar with the investigation claimed on Friday. On Saturday, the Takfiri group also claimed the couple as its followers.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) said on Monday the couple had been radicalized “for some time.”

Kelley told Press TV on Tuesday that the shooting “is just one in a long string of false flag events that I am afraid to say are not over.”

“We’ll probably be seeing several more before the end of the year, because of the events that are going on in the world, specifically with the NATO being implicated in the buying of oil from Daesh and other events,” he stated.

“So when these things happen they need to have a rapid response which requires a false flag attack. This was very obvious that this was going to happen,” the analyst added.

“The people that were on the scene and saw this happen also reported that three tall white men wearing black shirts, khaki pants and tanned combat boots were actually the shooters. The description is almost exactly what the gentlemen from Craft International, the mercenary organization that was involved in so many other false flags, actually look like. This seems to be their standard uniform,” he noted.

President Barack Obama on Sunday called the California shooting an “act of terrorism” and said the couple who launched the attack “had gone down the dark path of radicalization.”

“They had stockpiled assault weapons, ammunition and pipe bombs. So this was an act of terrorism,” he claimed.

Kelley said “the people that are being implicated – the couple — first of all if they were planning something, if they were radicalized as this is being said, and clearly the NSA, the FBI will be right on the top of these people all the time, but rather than stopping them from doing something, they were nurtured to be used for this exact purpose.”

“I do not suspect that these people have anything to do with the actual shooting. I suspect that these were patsies, no different than Timothy McVeigh or any of these other people who have historically been used to implement these terrorist acts,” the commentator said.

“If you look at the people that were wounded you can see clearly that bullet wounds are not real. The 223 weapon or bullets fired from AR15 – an extremely powerful weapon — would blow someone’s arm off, it is not going to make a small hole,” said Kelley, who is also a weapons expert.

“So clearly this is a very very dirty false flag. Obviously, the United States is getting very very desperate; the government here is very desperate, they need to do something immediately to disarm the United States prior to a revolution, because the people here are waking up very fast, and they are ready to shut down this evil empire. And this needs to happen very soon,” the analyst concluded.

In his televised address from the Oval Office, Obama called for tougher gun controls, starting with a ban on gun purchases for anyone on a US government no-fly list. “To begin with, Congress should act to make sure no one on a no-fly list is able to buy a gun.”

“What could possibly be the argument for allowing a terrorist suspect to buy a semiautomatic weapon? This is a matter of national security,” he stated.

Obama has said the “biggest frustration” of his time in the office has been the inability to reduce unparalleled levels of gun violence in the country.

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San Bernardino shooting has all the signs of a staged government operation or ISIS terror attack (from what we know so far) Wednesday, December 02, 2015
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger naturalnews.com
“…From what we know so far, this does not resemble in any way a “lone gunman” or an angry gun owner targeting someone he hates. The attack took place at the Inland Regional Center, a company that helps disabled people improve their lives with training, self-improvement counseling and more. No lone gunman shoots up a building full of disabled people.

UPDATE: We now know that LA police used the same building targeted in today’s attack as a stage for active shooter drills carried out every month! As they police raid began, one staffer from inside the building actually tweeted, “drill started.”

Military gear, escape vehicle and more…
According to eyewitness reports, this shooting was carried out by “three white males dressed in military gear.”

They were highly organized, too. They carried out the shooting and then fled in an awaiting vehicle which has not yet been found.

These are not the actions of a crazed, lone gunman. These are the actions of a highly trained force with a specific mission to carry out. They even got away from the scene of the crime! (So far…).

…”
Was San Bernardino Shooting a False Flag? from youtube.com
“Published on Dec 2, 2015

14 people were killed at the Inland regional center in California. The same location where in days past active shooter drills had taken place. Now the police say this shooting started because of a dispute at a party. At this point the shooters went home. Dressed in what mainstream media calls assault clothing and grabbed assault rifles. There are also reports of bombs at the scene. Which tells me that this is a premeditated attack. Nurses in the center thought today’s shooting was a drill. This occurred in a area with gun control already in place and monsters like Hillary Clinton have taken to Twitter to call for more Gun Control. The weapons used were illegally obtained, so how can more fun control counter that? This has false flag written all over it? What do you think?”
SAN BERNARDINO SHOOTING EXPOSED! WAS IT A HOAX?!?!


“Published on Dec 2, 2015

Was the San Bernardino shooting a hoax?! Watch this video as it goes through how it could have been a false flag for gun control!!
At least two of the suspected killers in a mass shooting at a county mental health building in San Bernardino, California—an unidentified man and woman both dressed in black—were killed in a shootout with police on a nearby side street, the killer has been identified as Syed R. Farook they say he got in a fight at the Christmas party came back and shot up the place now they are saying he was mentally sick Syed R. Farook he was employed by San Bernardino County as an Environmental Health Specialists and was a DEVOTED MUSLIM yet CNN is reporting mental illness Obama has been pushing to take away are guns for a while on people that are mentally sick to promote gun control It is no accident that it happen at a disable center are we all seeing why this all happened!?”

BREAKING: SWAT Team Drill Turns into REAL Mass Shooting Scenario in San Bernardino, CA By Matt Agorist on December 2, 2015 thefreethoughtproject.com
“After the shooting began, San Bernardino Police Department Lt. Richard Lawhead said that their SWAT team happened to be conducting training nearby. The team was suited, “ready to roll” and responded rapidly, Lawhead said….
What makes this noteworthy is that this is not the first time that emergency drills for the exact scenario unfolding were taking place at virtually the same moment the actual terrorist attacks began.

Paris-area emergency personnel and ambulance crews were taking part in a simulated emergency exercise on the very same day the Paris terrorist attacks took place.

During the 9/11 attacks on the U.S., North American Aerospace Defense Command’s (NORAD) was in the midst of a training exercise called Vigilant Guardian, which “coincidentally” simulated planes being hijacked by terrorists.

The Free Thought Project has heard from a source on the ground, that the target inside the Inland Regional Center was a gathering of government officials. This was confirmed by KTLA and Marybeth Feild, president and CEO of the Inland Regional Center, told the Associated Press that “the incident is in the conference area” at the center rented by an outside group, which she couldn’t identify.

As of 4:15 EST on Wednesday, the reason behind these tragic shootings and the identity the shooters remains unknown. We will keep updating this article as we find new information…”

-Backup:

Training exercises dovetail with mass shootings
Nov
21
by Jon Rappoport jonrappoport.wordpress.com


Sheriff leading Umpqua Community College mass shooting response wrote anti-gun control letter after Sandy Hook
By Michael Walsh 3 hours ago (Thursday, October 1st 2015) Yahoo News
“…“Gun control is NOT the answer to preventing heinous crimes like school shootings,” Hanlin wrote. “Any actions against or in disregard for our U.S. Constitution and 2nd Amendment rights by the current administration would be irresponsible and an indisputable insult to the American people.”

Hanlin also voiced his support in the letter for Linn County, Ore., Sheriff Tim Mueller, who said politicians were exploiting the deaths of innocent victims to try to pass laws that would prevent law-abiding Americans from owning firearms or ammunition magazines.

“The United States Supreme Court has ruled that when a Sheriff chooses to enforce an unconstitutional directive,” Hanlin said, “he is violating his Constitutional Oath. I will NOT violate my Constitutional Oath.”

Hours after the shooting Thursday, President Obama opened his address to the media and the American people by saying that he has been to Roseburg and knows that there are “really good people.” He also thanked first responders there for very likely saving lives.
..”

Oregon FF/HOAX: We Have Our Hero Narrative With Hollywood Connections


“Published on Oct 2, 2015

More evidence this event was scripted…

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/…
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015…
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/…

‘Sandy Hook Truthers’ claim Newtown school massacre a hoax to spur gun control measures Lee-Anne Goodman, The Canadian Press | January 16, 2013 12:57 AM ET More from The Canadian Press news.nationalpost.com
“..The Obama administration perpetrated the hoax, the conspiracy theorists claim, in order to ratchet up support for tougher gun control measures.

They call themselves Operation Terror, and many of the movement’s adherents appear to have ties to the so-called 9-11 truthers who have long held that the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, were an inside job by the George W. Bush administration.

Their theories on the Dec. 14 shooting in Sandy Hook appear to lack any basis in fact, reality or common sense. But Google Trends suggests the movement is gaining momentum with both a Florida college professor and a libertarian Fox News anchor in Cincinnati questioning the official narrative on the events.
..”

FBI SAYS NO ONE KILLED AT SANDY HOOK — FBI publishes crime report showing “0” murders occurred in Newtown in 2012 redflagnews.com

’80s Punk Star Exene Cervenka Claims Santa Barbara Shooting Was a Hoax

May 28, 2014 7:42 PM radio.com
“..The 58-year-old frontwoman has added herself to the list of “truthers” who believe Elliot Rodger was just another bad actor in a long line of well-produced hoaxes, which include the Boston Marathon bombings and the attack on the World Trade Center.

Calling herself a “conspiracy therapist,” Cervenka digs into Elliot Rodger’s videos and various news reports in order to find incongruities.

Several videos added to her YouTube channel playlist today that back up the theory that Rodger’s manifesto videos were filmed in a studio. “No one died and no one got hurt. The story is 100% fabricated from start to finish,” claims one YouTube truther.

Cervenka believes Rodger’s killing spree, along with the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting, were designed to force stricter gun control laws — ultimately leaving citizens defenseless against the government.
..

Those Who Do Not Remember the Past are Condemned to Repeat it

Nick Veritas
Published on Nov 14, 2015
Without the ability to defend yourself and your family… YOU ARE A SLAVE. Feel free to copy and upload. I did.

Biblical Perspective

Why did David choose five smooth stones before going to fight Goliath? gotquestions.org

Matthew 26:52 (ASV) Then saith Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword nto its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword biblestudytools.com

I just did a quick google “search” on both sides of this issue after the shooting in Oregon (Thursday, October 1st 2015). Thoughts and prayers for all the families of the victims of this shooting and others in the past. These aren’t the best data or sources, so please feel free to share below to back-up what side you are for. Got a solution for these shootings?

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