I’ve heard this statement “again” today, which I told them this analogy that I thought of years ago..
When I went to school growing-up, I was bullied and teased. I actually had days I didn’t want to go to school or just regretted going. However, I kept “forcing” myself as I wanted to get my “education” and be successful in life. I’m glad I didn’t “quit” or I would’ve not been where I’m at right now. I’m not saying school is like church, but it’s a “man-made institution”. There is “imperfectness” in any type of “institution” (run by people)!…government 😉 As long as these institutions are “led” by people, it’s always going to be “corrupt” (see Deep Thought: Who to “blame” for the world’s corruption? ) in some sort of way. There are places that are more “Godly” than others, but the key thing is prayer! Keep praying for these people. Before I go to work, I “try” to pray-sing the “Lord’s Prayer” that His kingdom will come to my workplace.
I just thought of this, where do you work at? Do you look forward to going to work? Are there people that you “disliked” or have been “offended” by something he/she did? Do you still go to work? Why? How do you deal with it?
Help in Overcoming Church Hurt Article by Josh Moody Guest Contributor desiringgod.org
“As a pastor of a church, I’ve heard stories from people who have found church confusing, contrarian, or even damaging. Not every church hurts people, but most churches have hurt someone at some point. Some people are hurt through their own mistakes, others because of sin committed against them, and still others because of failed leadership. This reality can leave them reluctant to re-engage, afraid of being hurt again, wanting to protect themselves, and questioning the place of church in their lives. The good news for the hurting is that God has spoken to your pain in the Bible….”
When You’re Hurt by the Church Dave Burchett christianitytoday.com
Letting go of victimhood.
“You may have been abused by shepherds who should have restored you but instead chose to condemn you (or worse). Or perhaps you have been neglected by churchgoers who should have cared enough to seek you out and return you to the flock. I do not deny that many of us have been victims of the sinful, selfish, and hurtful acts of those in and around the church.
..With physical hurts, we immediately seek help. But emotional and spiritual hurts seem to engender a response unlike any other wound. When we are “shot” by people in the church, we tend to focus on the shooter, not the Healer. This is one of our Enemy’s most effective distraction strategies—he knows that healing is available, and he does not want us to get it. ..”
Overcoming a Bad Church Experience By David Sanford focusonthefamily.com
“Anyone can have a bad church experience. Just ask Colleen and Eric.
At first, Colleen and Eric felt great about the church they attended. After all, that’s where they had met, were married, and had started raising their family.
At that point in their lives, Colleen and Eric weren’t really searching for God — just the acceptance of a group of peers. So when they started noticing the church leadership’s apparent contradictions and deception, they kept quiet. What they didn’t know for several years: their church was part of a now-discredited cult.
After Colleen and Eric left the cult, pain, guilt, and doubts plagued them. The experience “caused me to question my own ability to see the truth,” Colleen says. “I had guilt for seeing red flags along the way, but not doing anything about it. You ask God for forgiveness and He gives it, but it’s hard to forgive yourself. I felt cheated, like I had wasted all those years.”
Within a year, however, Colleen and Eric joined the Vista Del Sol church in El Paso, Texas, and began the second religious journey of their life — this time in a healthy church environment.
Colleen’s desire to be accepted was met — this time in a positive environment. “We felt genuinely loved by everyone,” she says. “Walter Muller [the pastor] embraced us and loved us. I think his Austrian background made him have a heart for people who were a little different.”
Despite the guilt that Colleen felt from being in a cult, she wouldn’t change her past. Why? God has allowed her to share her story with and assist others who have had bad church experiences.
It Could Happen to You..”
HOW TO DEAL WITH CHURCH HURT | I’VE BEEN HURT BY CHURCH!
THE BEAT by Allen Parr
“…How do you respond when you’ve given your life, your time, and a whole bunch of your money to a church only to be disappointed and hurt?
INTRODUCTION: I’ve experienced everything from a pastor in college coming on to me to another pastor calling me the N word from the pulpit during his sermon. I personally know other people who have given their hard-earned money to churches and when they were in need whether it was financial or they or their loved ones were sick no one from the church came to visit them or support them and this has left them bitter and angry towards church. So, today I want to give you just a few things to consider if you’re dealing with church hurt.
1. Don’t allow a bad experience to cause you to drift”…
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During worship service this morning at my local church, I shared some thoughts that I felt eager to share with the church body during “shares” after the worship music:
I shared that I’ve been interested in the recent news in Oroville, California…
… and been following up on it. I felt that their is a lot of symbolism with “man-made” dams that have been constructed around the world with our “spiritual” walk. The dams can be a symbolism of “lies” (e.g. “Your not good enough” , You are a loser”, etc..)that has been spoken to each of us in various ways that hinder us to receive more what God can do through us.
Before writing this, I was reminded of this “old-school” worship song..
I feel that we need to let God destroy that “spiritual dam” in our personal lives in order for His “Holy Spirit” to move in us mightier as His children.
What are you currently personally “struggling” with? Do you trust that God will get your through it? I then shared one of the songs that was sung during worship on “I’m NO longer a slave to fear..”, which I shared last year at church that we can substitute “fear” with whatever (e.g. sin, depression, alcohol, deception…
…drugs, an orphan, anger, cancer, PTSD, shame , jealousy, greed, stress, bullying, sexual impurity, lost, past, etc..) is keeping you “bondage”.. Keep repeating this to get it in your head until you have been release from these. This is part of meditation w/ God’s word (Bible verses on each one).
After my share, the guest speakers (Dennis & Zoe) from Pillager, MN shared about their recent trip to the Philippines. This family duo modeled how God can use us . They went to the Philippines to minister to the people there in different barangays/villages in various ways (e.g. healing, words of knowedledge, encouragement, etc..) This was such an encouragement for all of that we don’t have to depend on “ministers” or “church leaders” to do God’s work. We all can be used by Him to bring the taste of God’s kingdom on earth.
Hope and pray this will touch you and may God use each of us mightily in these days and please pray for the people of Oroville and the communities in the valley downstream of the #Orovillespillway or #Orovilledam. Feel free to share your thoughts, prayer requests, etc..
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This past Sunday, my local church had some guest speakers after a weekend conference (Friday’s notes & Saturday’s notes) for women in our fellowship community. I was actually personally praying for this weekend conference for God to personally touch my sisters in the Lord. Well, I came to church yesterday morning after unintentionally staying up too late. I was so blessed that I had to share…
Here were the songs Cherish led our church family into praise and songs…dancing too!
“Freedom in this place..”
“We Want Change in the Spirit”…open my eyes to see , my ears to hear..on what your saying God…to me”
“Bringing order, bringing life….Father you know best”
“Consuming Raging Fire”…fire,fire, You are our consuming fire”..burn me up, burn me up,….consume me, consume me,…He is residing in me”.
-return to the 1st love
During worship, I felt some spoken words to me, so I had to write these down..
“I’m royalty, I have destiny…I’m waking now, it’s time to shine. I was born for such a time as this..”
“We worship you Jesus…let everything that has breath praise the Lord”
“My determined purpose is to know You”…
“waves” (look in the concordance Bible on this word)
“8”For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD.”–Isaiah 55
Other Songs led by Cherish:
Q: God’s ready, are you?
A: feet of readiness (Ephesians 6)
This was a word that led me to write this..
“my determined purpose is to know your Word”
-Pat F. share
Sal’s: I thought of this old cartoon…
Tom and Jerry (devil keeps chasing God’s people)
-Jonathan shares Bible Verses:
1 Timothy 5:3
1 Corinthians 10:24-31
1 Corinthians 11:1
-Jennifer T. (Expectancy Life Church in Virginia, Minnesota)
Rebuking demonic spirit (see 1 John 3) of a popular death metal band member
Sharing God’s love with “Love Bombs”
“no one is perfect, will keep changing/growing until we are taken to Heaven” (our next Salvation)
Can’t be lukewarm or mix (e.g. Sprite & Coke can’t be mixed together, one or the other has to be totally dumped out for pure drink of one)
” 22 And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved. 23 When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.”–Matthew 10:22-24 & Mark 13
Q: Are you willing to change your thinking? (e.g. religious traditions)
A: Renew mind (e.g. Romans 12)
-Cherish K. of Oasis International
“8”For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD. 8For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD. 8″For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the LORD. 8For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 8For My thoughts are not your thoughts, and your ways are not My ways.” This is the LORD’s declaration.”
9″As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.
“Return to the Beginning”
*I thought of my song that I wrote last year (“Come Back to the Beginning”)
Word-:line-up with God’s thinking
Sal: After service, these words came to me and it became a song…
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