Community Dialogue: Presidential Elections-Who did you vote for and why?November 11, 2016 at 1:25 am | Posted in community, Dialogue, elections, Presidential, Uncategorized, vote, who, Why | Leave a comment
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Many people were open on social network about sharing their “feelings” on the results of the recent U.S. Presidential election this week. It saddens me of how people can get “profane” on their reaction to the results from both sides. I decided to do this blog to help form a “peaceful” dialogue below and to help understand each others’ background-views on “why” they voted the way they did. Instead of jumping to conclusions and labeling one another just because of who they voted, let’s better understand each others’ background and reason..
I’m open to admit that I voted “3rd Party”, which I have in the past 3 Presidential elections for various reasons (e.g. hypocrisy). As a “Christian”, I believe no party is more “Christian” than the other. Some might disagree with me with this statement, so feel free to reply below and I’ll share my personal reasons for each “platform issue”. There are some values I’m personally “for” in both parties, but same with “against”. I even took a personal online survey (similar to this one-> Where Do You Fit in the Political Typology? ) that put me in the “middle”, which is why I voted 3rd Party.
Why did people vote for Donald Trump? Voters explain theguardian.com
“…I believe Trump will be a good president because he knows how to make deals, deals that will make America prosperous again. We need to bring our nation together. I like the fact that all three branches are controlled by the same party, now we can get down to the business of straightening out our country, taking care of our people, our veterans, getting the economy moving again and repealing Obamacare…”
Hillary Clinton Is a Dangerous Choice for Voters Against Abortion (A Response to Eric Sapp)
By Dr. Richard D. Land , CP Exclusive Oct 3, 2016 | 7:23 AM christianpost.com
“..Yes, Hillary once advocated that abortion should be “safe, legal, and rare.” However, Mrs. Clinton is accused of supporting late-term abortion because she supports abortion of “precious unborn children” under any circumstances up to the moment of full birth. Speaking of “reproductive rights,” Mrs. Clinton’s preferred euphemism for abortion, she declared that “deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs, and structural biases have to be changed.” That sounds chillingly like government coercion to abandon deeply held pro-life religious convictions…”
–Obama’s Culture of Life: The Abortion Rate Has Fallen 13% Under This President By Sarah Jones on Mon, Feb 3rd, 2014 at 10:28 am politicususa.com
“..Abortion rate peaked in 1981 under former President Reagan (though he had just taken office), and is at the lowest rate since 1973 as of 2011, under President Obama. The abortion rate had been falling until it “stalled” between 2005 and 2008, under former President Bush.
According to a new study by Guttmacher, the abortion rate fell by 13% under Obama. Declines were the steepest in the Midwest and West, and “less steep yet noteworthy” in the South and Northeast (emphasis mine):
This is what happens when a party uses an emotional issue as a get out the vote tactic but does not really care about actually ending abortion at all. After all, even if they make abortion illegal it will still go on, it will just be unsafe and harm many women. Republicans don’t want the issue of abortion to go away, because it is one of the few ways they can get their evangelical base out to vote. They had better hope the base never catches on to the truth.
This also suggests that Democrats and Obama are not necessarily “pro abortion” as the Republicans like to charge. Quite the opposite. While they are pro freedom for women to make their own medical decisions, they also seek to help women avoid these tough decisions by making birth control accessible. If we want to deal in reality, it’s Republicans who are “pro abortion”, as their policies lead to more abortions, not less.
So here we have President Obama’s Culture of Life, which fits in nicely next to his badge for being fiscally responsible, getting Osama bin Laden, and getting the stock market to record levels. “
#ClintonNation: This is why Americans are voting for Hillary Clinton Rick Hampson , USA TODAY 12:28 p.m. EDT July 25, 2016 usatoday.com
“..Many, however, regard Clinton as more than a gender pioneer, and more than the better candidate this year. “She has probably the most experience of any man or woman ever nominated,” declared Rod Washington, 40, a Monroe, La., public relations professional.
She couldn’t be more qualified, said Jeanne Cumby, 54, of Asheville, N.C., “unless she’d been to the moon.”
To sing her praises, supporters recite her résumé — Yale Law School, children’s advocate, first lady, U.S. senator, 2008 presidential candidate, secretary of state. “Hillary has been there, done that, and wrote the book on a lot of things,” said the Rev. Dennis Ross Sr., 56, a Memphis pastor…”
“..I’m so angry right now. A lot of good-hearted progressives are needlessly trembling with fear today, and it’s all the fault of the despicable tactics run for a year and a half by the amoral Clinton campaign. There were many lies that were told to frighten Americans into voting in support of Hillary, concocted by the neoliberal think tank and reported as fact by the corporate media (with at least some modicum of moderation and accountability) and by paid internet shills (with absolutely none). They brutalized the American psyche with baseless fearmongering, and people are still suffering from it for no good reason…
1. “The Supreme Court will be set back 30 years and Roe vs. Wade will be repealed if you don’t support Hillary Clinton!”
No, it won’t. People made this argument over and over again as though America has never had a Republican president before. As Commander-in-Chief, an American president has a lot more power over U.S. foreign policy than they do over domestic policy. Despite Trump’s assurances to his Republican base that he will help make America the only major country to ban abortion, he simply doesn’t have the ability to do this…
3. “Trump will start World War Three if you don’t elect Hillary Clinton!”
Trump has, in fact, run the least hawkish presidential campaign in recent Republican history, pushing a platform of non-interventionism and diplomacy. Instead of going to war with Russia or starting a proxy war in Syria, he wants to collaborate with Russia to fight terrorism, and he’s said North Korea is China’s problem. He’s surely said some gross things, and he’s surely done some unethical things, but he’s never killed anyone and seems to possess a normal human being’s respect for the value of human life. That’s a trait we haven’t seen in a U.S. president for a long, long time. He wants to make deals and “get along with everybody,” a position he reiterated in his victory speech last night.
4. “You’ll bring fascism/Nazism to America if you don’t elect Hillary Clinton!”…
6. Trump will immediately deport 11 million immigrants unless you vote for Hillary Clinton!”
Trump walked back on this promise months ago and now espouses a position much like that of Obama, who has deported more immigrants than any other president without any complaint from the Democrats. Donald Trump is a WWE Hall-of-Famer who knows how to work a crowd and get people on his side; he’s not an idiot. Nobody’s going to wage a war on 11 million people in a country of 319 million. Here’s an article from The Atlantic about Trump’s actual position now that he’s got the Republicans on his side…”
Current Crisis of Post-Elections:
It saddens me too about the “garbage” (e.g. Mich. students chant ‘build the wall’ in viral video
, Hate Speech Trump America, etc..) going on with the post-elections, which there is a misunderstanding of each one that I personally don’t agree that represents the views of the candidate, which might be for another blog…stay tuned!
Remarks: Please don’t let this campaign or any future political elections ruin any close loving relationships! I remember a good friend of mine that I lost just because I told him who I was going to vote for, which we never sat down for a “dialogue” to express our side-of-the-story on “why” we felt a particular way for the candidate or political party we were supporting…
Above are just some samples that I found online, what about you?